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[-] [email protected] 156 points 1 year ago

At this rate my owned outright copy of Adobe that requires no internet access, with hacks, will become a generational heirloom I can pass down to descendants with immersurable value.

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[-] [email protected] 128 points 1 year ago

Holy Shitballs:

Sam Santala

Jun 5

Also, hilarious that I can't even get ahold of your support chat to question this unless I agree to these terms beforehand.

Jun 5

I can't even uninstall Photoshop unless I agree to these terms?? Are you fucking kidding me??

Jun 5

Realising I also need to agree to the terms if I want to sign in and cancel my subscription

16h

Can someone there give me an email for someone who can cancel my subscription without having to sign in and agree to these new terms first?

[-] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago

Realising I also need to agree to the terms if I want to sign in and cancel my subscription

I'm pretty sure this is not legal in EU

[-] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

I think at that point I'd mail a certified letter and cancel whatever card it's on.

That probably wouldn't work but one can dream.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

I mean it probably would. Their only recourse would be to sue you.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

And if you have a decent credit card, and a record of your attempts to contact them and cancel your subscription, they’ll likely take your side if you back charge then block them from your card.

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[-] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago

Same choice as normal: whine about and then tolerate a change you don't want in proprietary software rather than spend time learning to use a software-freedom-respecting alternative.

"But my workflow".

[-] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Hey, a lot of people have deadlines and can’t just drop everything to spend a week learning if GIMP even meets their needs when Adobe is knocking their door down with this EULA change right the fuck now

And Adobe is counting on that. They knew this was bullshit and people would be made which is why the dropped it with (what seems like) zero warning

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

No hard feelings towards people who couldn't, or didn't, see this sort of thing coming.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I saw this coming and switched to GIMP and Inkscape. It's been a pain but I've managed. I'm just the IT guy though, and I would be laughed out of the room if I suggested our marketing team consider making the same switch.

It's not a matter of seeing it coming. They just don't care.

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[-] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago

The question I'd like to ask them is WHY they want to get involved in Content Moderation. They make a toolset, nothing more, so why do they care what someone is using the tools for? What could they possibly get out of this that makes it worth the time or expense?

[-] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

I imagine it's because of the generative AI stuff. If they're using their servers to generate, they're going to be responsible for what it puts out, even if it's just responding to user prompts.

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Feeding some other crappy AI

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[-] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago

People complain now, but they'll renew their subscription. It's the same unhealthy relationship people have with Windows.

[-] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago

It is my understanding a lot of people maintain their unhealthy relationship with Windows as a prerequisite for keeping their unhealthy relationship with Adobe.

To be fair, the FOSS community in this area has categorically failed. GIMP's mission statement is 1. be hateful to use and 2. be capable of editing photographs I guess. Inkscape can't support CMYK colorspaces so just forget it if there's an outside chance if it's going to be printed, Krita can't draw a circle, Pinta crashes every other thing...hell I wonder if Adobe pays the GIMP team to keep it unusable.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

GIMP's mission statement is 1. be hateful to use

It hurts to say but you're right. I was like "can't you remap the right mouse button to another tool? Everything in the context menu is in the Menu bar regardless" and they responded with "nope, design philosophy"

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

GIMP literally sucks on purpose. Anyone waiting around for GIMP to do what Blender did and suddenly become usable has missed the point.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yep. I feel like FOSS projects are always made by code monkeys who have no design sensibilities and designers do not touch any of these. a lot of them are not only unusable but uninstallable by the majority of the intended user base. whenever i find something i want to use it's like:

—cool software. can i double click on an icon and have it ready to use?
—umm, don't be ridiculous, normie. you gotta self host it and use the command line to enter some arcane incantations obviously. alternatively you can use these other methods you've never heard of. if you need any help you can refer to their respective indecipherable documentation.
—ok I'll keep what i have until i find something that's made for regular human beings, thanks.

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[-] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago

Ok, time to notify our design team not to use any Adobe products anymore and notify the commercial team to stop paying for licences.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

What can you replace Adobe with? Serious question. I despise Adobe, but every alternative I've tried throughout the years either cannot do the job or ends up disappearing.

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[-] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago

Canceled my Adobe account in 2018 and they just keep on making my decision a better and better one. Thanks, Adobe!

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[-] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago

Gee, yet another reason why mine is a Corel shop and we don't use Adobe for anything.

[-] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

This is 100% because they are rolling out more AI features and they want the government to ban all open source competition because they aren't "safe".

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[-] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Imagine getting banned from all of adobe just for drawing a dick with the brush tool in their expensive image editor.

[-] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Those reasons being stealing people's work for AI garbage.

Fuck Photoshop. Use Gimp and/or Krita.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, neither are good replacements for professional work.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use Krita professionally on a daily basis, it's fantastic. It has some rough edges but absolutely nothing that prevents you from having work done. It also beats the Adobe suite hands down when it comes to ergonomy, and the performance with big files is really good (I work on formats up to 14k*7k for print, no issues).

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[-] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Tell me you don't want money from NSFW artists without telling me.

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[-] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Hard fucking pass.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Isn't Photoshop by a lot of big corporations. Why would they sign up to that? Or do they get an exemption that isn't available to private individuals?

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Sufficiently large orgs probably will be eligible for exemptions under the theory that they are agreeing ahead of time.

But also? The Adobe suite are just leagues better than anything else in that space. Smaller companies with smaller contracts can get away with, frankly, lesser software. But at scale? You need stuff like the "Oh shit, we should stop calling it AI" plugins. And workflows matter a lot when the vast majority of your applicant pool have been using Adobe software for literally decades.

A decent number of the tech youtubers have done "We tried to not use Premier for one week" style videos. And they usually end up coming out with "I guess we could maybe make it work but it just isn't worth it"

Much like with "this is the year of gaming for linux", it is going to need massive amounts of grass roots effort to actually focus on UI/UX over "We don't need that because we are smarter" bullshit. And, eventually, it will be good enough for influencers/taste-makers to give it a chance.

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

If any large organizations want to make a large donation to Inkscape, GIMP, Krita and Blender that would be great.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I'll upload a shitton of nudes to adobe cloud and report them so a poor bloke has to review those

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Wild. My old place we relied on this despite me urging us to use Figma/Sketch and Blender (amazing for 2D art). Naturally logistics factored into it as our clients relied on Adobe as well, but there were plenty of projects that didn’t need it.

We also had the dumbest guidelines to ensure no leaks. I would routinely get app requests refused despite the fact their source was right there on GitHub.

So now what are they gonna do? Because if they use Adobe, they can no longer ensure that a clients work won’t hit the net. May not seem like much for small indie projects but if we snagged the next GTA or Valorant, you bet that would attract some serious lookiloos.

Not sure if a client would find “it wasn’t us it was Adobe” all that comforting!

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

I recieved today an email from Affinity saying that their whole suite of softwares is 50% off.

I'm assuming more people will be migrating to either Affinity or FOSS.

I currently use FOSS but I also really love Affinity. Especially since it's a perpetual/lifetime license.

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