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[–] 76 points 3 years ago (7 children)

Wait until you hear what the Danes do.

Why is “97” “7 + [-½+5] x 20” in Danish?

https://jose-lesson.com/lin/2017/01/16/nonaginta-septem/

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  • [–] 25 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    It's kind of funny how aware Danes are of their weird numbers system. I speak Norwegian and whenever I'm in Denmark they use the more sensible Norwegian number system to explain to me the prices of stuff (probably because I give them the deer in the headlights-stare whenever I hear something like "fem og halvfjerds").

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    I'm otherwise decently fluent in Danish (first learned nynorsk then lived in Denmark for a few years). But when numbers come out I immediately switch back to Norwegian. Fucking Danes.

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    [–] 76 points 3 years ago (16 children)

    I had to look this up. What the fuck? They came up with numbers up to 60 and then just said "eh, fuck it" and made 70 "sixty-ten", 80 "four-twenties" and 90 "four twenties ten".

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  • [–] 53 points 3 years ago* (5 children)

    In francophone Switzerland, they use septante, huitante, and nonante for 70, 80, and 90, respectively. Much more sensical, imo.

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  • [–] 35 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    The other way around. We started with base 20 everywhere then simplified some of it.

    During medieval times it used to be :
    10 Dix (10)
    20 Vingt (20)
    30 Vingt et dix (20+10)
    40 Deux-vingt (2x20)
    50 Deux-vingt et dix (2x20+10)
    60 Trois-vingt (3x20)
    70 Trois-vingt et dix (3x20+10)
    80 Quatre-vingt (4x20)
    90 Quatre-vingt et dix (4x20+10)

    Then they switched to base 10... But only up to 70 for some reasons in France. Belgium and Switzerland (and some parts of France) have gone all the way to 100 by using Septante (70), Octante or Huitante (80) and Nonante (90).

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    [–] 23 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    English: What's that?
    German: "Was ist das?"
    Dutch: "Wat is dat?"
    Spanish: ¿Qué es eso?
    French: "qu'est-ce-que c'est ?"

    What. the fuck?!

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    French-Québec : “Kossé ça?”
    French also : “C’est quoi?”
    … or : “Qu’est-ce?”

    Word for word of "qu’est-ce-que c’est ?” …
    …goes like : "What’s this that this is?
    …or : “What’s this which this is?”

    “Qu’est-ce?” sounds like the english “Case”.
    Since this is just one syllable it might be difficult to hear out of context.
    Edit : Delayed 8h because of DDOS attack

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    [–] 20 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    This doesn't apply to all french speaking regions. Switzerland use septante and nonante and in some regions of the country also huitante.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago

    With the exception of Eleven and Twelve, English is actually pretty good at this.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago* (11 children)

    The other day I decided I would stop saying quatre-vingt-dix (4, 20, 10 = 90) instead I would say huit-dix-dix (8, 10, 10) or even deux-quarante-dix (2, 40, 10) and shit like that

    to add some context i forgot about it an hour after

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    Why not use the existing septante, octante, neunante?

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    [–] 12 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    The French is the reason English is a clusterfuck of inconsistent grammar and spelling.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Well and German, and some other Latin languages, and a bit of Nordic/Slavic languages, and all the other languages whose pockets English rifled for loose vocabulary.

    I love the language, honestly, I love how completely and unapologetically a clusterfuck it is, but it's a clusterfuck.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    Highly Irregular: Why Tough, Through, and Dough Don't Rhyme―And Other Oddities of the English Language

    You are the person I've been waiting to recommend this book. It's fascinating. It was wild to see everything explained. It all has very good reasons for being completely insane, but it gave me a much deeper appreciation for why it is as is.

    And for those of you too lazy to read a book, here's a podcast interview with the author:

    https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/corpse-corps-horse-and-worse/

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    ... Four Twenties Ten Nine, Hundred

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    [–] 11 points 3 years ago

    I think it was around that time in my French class, with my teacher just without any comment expecting us to take that seriously, that I decided that’s not a language I wanted to deal with.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The "four twenties" might seems more familiar to americans by replacing "twenties" by "score" as in : " four score and seven years ago...."

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    [–] 8 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    I've seen this coutless times, and as a french native I'm getting tired of this, I want to tell you that no french think of it that way.

    You know how you have "eleven" "twelve" and then you switch to "xxteen" for the next 6 number ? You never dissociate them, because that's just the way it is. French are the same "douze", "treize".... and then suddenly "dix-sept" but nobody dissociate them, this is just one word that means "17"

    And then it's the same with "seventy", french don't dissociate 60 and 10 in their mind, it's just one word. Sure from an ethymologic standpoint it comes from two word but it's not how we think about it.

    When you say "sunday" you never think "day of the sun", when you say "blueberry", "blackberry" you don't think of the color, you think of the particular fruit, everybody can see the origin of the word, but nonetheless the word is one unit.

    Anyway. Yes it is weird to learn a new language and see how it evolved into a weird mess, but please know that when you make this kind of comment you don't look like you are well informed about the french language, you just look like kids that have learned a new word and can't stop using it everywhere.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I think this actually roots in the problems of conversion to base ten from base twelve. Not sure though, maybe I remembered this wrong.

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    [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    "seventeen, eighteen, nineteen..... ten..... ten ten"

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