I'm curious if it could solve the traffic light and crosswalk ones, I would try but I'm out of free image uploads from asking it to explain memes to test its cultural knowledge.
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Wow, that's actually quite impressive.
I'm sure eventually someone will make a bot called something like ai-explains-the-joke that does this automatically.
I wonder how much was scraped from knowyourmeme.com
I mean it still parsed the specific text in the meme and formulated a coherent explanation of this specific meme, not just the meme format
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The majority of people right now are fairly out of touch with the actual capabilities of modern models.
There's a combination of the tech learning curve on the human side as well as an amplification of stories about the 0.5% most extreme failure conditions by a press core desperate to feature how shitty the technology they are terrified of taking their jobs is.
There's some wild stuff most people just haven't seen.
I can just as well say that the screenshot above is the top 0.5% pushed by people trying to sell the tech. I don't really have an opinion either way tbh, I'm just being cynical. But my own experience with those tools hasn't been impressive.
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Yes it probably can... CAPTCHAs don't work based on your answers (many types you can answer wrong and still sometimes pass) - they work by tracking your mouses movements and timing and deciding whether they human-like.
Why do i fail the "choose all images with motorcycles" challenges all the time then :c
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a fellow SolidWorks victim
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Captchas te not meant to deter all bots. It's meant to make it ever so slightly expensive that a mass DDOS attack would be extremely expensive to perform. Think like thousand sof requests per second, all being Captcha'd and how much it costs to run AI. It's current not a feasible solution.
There is cheaper AI that can solve Captchas though, and it's only gonna get cheaper.
It's long been cheap enough that you can pay a call center full of people in a developing country to solve them for you. Going to be a while before AI is cheaper than that.
Having used them to protect a few web sites from spammers filling up forms, they do cut down on the bullshit. This makes things more convenient for the people reading the information coming in from those forms, but I sometimes wonder if it's worth the cost of everyone else having to pick out the bicycles in the picture.
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Also, captchas are meant to gather data to train on. That's why we used to have pictures of writing, but that's basically solved now. It's why we now have a lot of self driving vehicle focused ones now, like identifying busses, bikes, traffic lights/signs, and that sort of thing.
Captchas get humans to label data so the ML algorithms can train on it, eventually being able to identify the tests themselves.
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I believe this is why Google, and a few other companies, have started using behavioral analysis to figure out if you are human. Did your mouse wonder around the page before clicking to verify? Did you come from another website as if browsing the web? What device are you using and have you used it on this site before? Are you logged into an account? I’m sure they use many more factors, but it’s something that would be hard to replicate with bot behavior on a consistent basis (for now).
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I have an extension which solves most Captchas for me It does it better than me which is why I use it
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Computers have long since been able to defeat such captchas.
it's the recaptchas that they should have trouble with. since it's not just about finding the right picture, it's also about the time between clicks, the way the mouse moves, etc.
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There's a program called Xevil that can solve even HCaptcha reliably, and it can solve these first gen captions by the thousands per second. It's been solving Google's v3 recaptchas for a long time already too.
People who write automation tools (unfortunately, usually seo spammers and web scrapers) have been using these apps for a long time.
Captchas haven't been effective at protecting important websites for years, they just keep the script kiddies away who can't afford the tools.
Captchas haven't been effective at protecting important websites for years, they just keep the script kiddies away who can't afford the tools.
To be fair, keeping the script kiddies away has some good value. Whether that value outweighs all the wasted time and impact to sight/hearing impaired people is another discussion.
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Captchas are used by google as weapon now, if you dare to use a VPN and adblocker.
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Yeah captchas are done. Soon they will be easier to figure out for AI than for humans.
This is why Sam Altman is doing his worldcoin thingy with the iris scanners. His idea: One iris (well, two...) is one real human. I'm sure this will be abused though and I absolutely vehemently don't trust him with my biometrics so no way I will join that.
I think what we should do is just get used to the fact that the internet now consists of humans and AIs. Learn to take things with a grain of salt.
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Some disabled people have trouble with captchas, so these days you can download an extension where a robot solves the captcha for you.
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So close
This is why a lot of sites have moved to something more complex than text, like the weird “rotate this to match” stuff that LinkedIn uses.
The "puzzle" isn't the test, the test uses your browser history, mouse activity, etc to identify you as human (or not). The puzzle is used to generate training data for ML models.
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There's a lot of misunderstanding in this thread about how captchas work.
What modern captchas examine isn't actually your ability to solve the puzzle... It's how you solve it. Things like mouse movements and how you type are big factors. So a bot would process for a moment, and then basically copy and paste in the answer, whereas as a human is going to type at a normal pace, often with pauses as they double check the details. Same goes for the click the tiles challenges. A bot will work through systematically, a human will bounce around, and their timings will be very different.
Captchas have largely been solvable by machines at a rate higher than humans for a long, long time.
It is very easy to train a model to behave like humans do by simply having a sample of human inputs.
Here is an article from august 2023 covering how much better machines are than humans at accomplishing captchas of many flavors. Sauce
I wonder how that works on a Japanese captcha. I know people have had issues shortly after moving but not knowing the language at all yet trying to set some things up.
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It got it wrong. That's a lowercase "p."
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