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[–] [email protected] 159 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Mark Rober for me, seems like he wants to be Mr. Beast Lite or something lately.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Same here, seems like less and less substance each video. They're all just there to promote his monthly subscription box

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That's like 99% of successful YouTube stars. They get their own product and then boom that's all their videos are made for ads. Good thing sponser skip exists on non native YouTube players.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

SponsorBlock*

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Mark is very lazy recently. Nothing wrong with that, after doing the same job for so long, it's only natural, but I don't enjoy his content as I used to.

He was always very "science for the whole family" but recent videos seem to skew very heavily into kids content without much clever science content

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (6 children)

I would generally agree with this sentiment, but I do enjoy all of the safety 3rd crew showing up regularly.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Recently, I noticed that a lot of the YouTube recommendations I was seeing were folks based out of Utah. My wife calls it Mormon YouTube. Outdoors Boys, Matt's Offroad Recovery, Brandon Sanderson, and a few more Mormon adjacent channels started popping up everywhere. I started wondering what I had watched that started brining all these other things up.

It's Mark Rober.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Add JerryRigEverything to that list. His wife is literally a Mormon motivational speaker and they built a survival bunker (which is a Mormon thing, in addition to just being kinda cool).

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I wouldn't say really that his channel has gotten objectively worse, just that he has realized that 90% of people who watch his channel are children and he has aimed his channel towards them - I just have to accept that I am no longer the target audience.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Yup, it was more of a deep dive into the engineering and thoughts about how he tackles difficult tasks. Just watched his recent video where he was pretty much a shitty mythbusters without the engineering or the lead up to the test. Just stupid countdowns to explosions.

My wife was watching it with me and asked if that was a recap or was that the actual video? Because she felt it was so lacking compared to his earlier glitter bomb videos.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 5 months ago (11 children)

I was legitimately sad when I had to stop watching AvE.

His content quality had dropped but I still watched because I enjoyed his delivery. But when he started praising the Canadian convoy protestors, it completely ruined his channel for me. And then he kept espousing awful politics and I couldn't watch anymore.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The warning signs were there earlier when he pushed a crypto pump and dump on his channel. I'd already pretty much stopped watching his videos after that and then the covid stuff happened. I was also a bit sad to hit unsubscribe.

But thankfully years ago I discovered This Old Tony who scratches a similar itch for me, but better. Much slower uploads, but far higher quality.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

I somehow missed the crypto thing. Gross.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I dropped him when he showed a picture of snow outside his garage and said it was proof there was no such thing as climate change.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

I might have given that a pass as a joke because at one point I thought he was a smart man. Knowing what I know now about him, I probably wouldn't.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 73 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My ex was very into ltt when they were just getting off the ground, and I thought the content was trash but I stuck with it so I knew wtf the latest video was about so I could be prepared to discuss it. Then started the bell curve of 'decent', then for a very short time 'good' and almost 'enjoyable', then sliding down the other side of the bell curve back to 'decent', and now it's just actual garbage.

I only remain a subscriber for the weekly wan show, and that is wearing on me too. Linus just can't shut the fuck up to save his life, and he interjects more than a helicopter parent. He seems like a decent guy but I want to punch him in the face regardless.

I've been a subscriber to gn for like a decade now and the quality of the content is just night and day. I feel like the poor editors at ltt are pumping out stuff that would be cool if if was 2004 and they were using windows movie maker. But it's just sad for everyone who got pulled into this toilet vortex, and the people who actually have skills are being ignored for the lulz and the most basic of internet humor. At least Arby n The Chief didn't try to cast itself as a serious, educational show. "my roflcopter goes soisoisoisoisoi" was great for that. Ltt at that level is just awful.

I'd absolutely love to see Emily (I think that's her name..) break away and start her own channel. Their knowledge dwarfs all the other presenters, and they actually know what the fuck they are talking about, instead of half-assing a script and going 'yolo lolololol money is no object for short-term internet fame'.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Yup, unsubscribe after Gamers Nexus called em out. A lot of shit came to light and there still hasn't been any update on the Madison situation. Finding out Yvonne was head of HR, Linus being anti-union, sexual harassment, etc. A lot of scummy stuff going on, and Linus turning into a rich out of touch douchebag instead of a regular douchebag.

Definitely agree that some of their talent should start there own channels.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I had seen a post here a few days ago where they hired a third party to go over the allegations that Madison made, and they were essentially cleared however long after, but were also told that they still need to work on reporting and hr stuff. Which to me indicates that there was probably no documentation made if they did happen, so it would be impossible to audit like two years later, because being ignored when she told someone about the sexual harassment was one of her complaints. However, maybe you trust a neutral third party because taking the side of the company every time means their reputation for neutrality would be worthless, which means their business is dead. But in LTT's statement they made it clear that while they did believe there was enough in their report to justify a defamation case, they just want to leave it behind them. Great stuff to include in your statement /s.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Which to me indicates that there was probably no documentation made if they did happen, so it would be impossible to audit like two years later, because being ignored when she told someone about the sexual harassment was one of her complaints.

When a law firm does an internal investigation, it's about judging the risk to the company if things were to go to court and not about if the events actually happened. So things like a lack of documentation is exactly what they are looking for. By using someone that can be considered to be a neutral third party, they can get the accuser to divulge whatever evidence they also have. You're not lying, the firm isn't there to make you look innocent, but you are clipping the leverage of the accusing party.

So, if the accuser says that they have a journal, or witnesses, or recordings, then you as a corporation then act to stop them from pressing forward. You fire someone, you pay them out, you say "oh, if only I knew about this we would've done something sooner", etc. This generally costs less than actual court and what would be ruled against you.
If the accuser has nothing, and you also have nothing that would shake loose in an actual investigation for your requirement to provide a safe workplace, then you can say things like "look, we paid someone to look into things, and it is looks like we're all good. We're going to put some policies in place to make sure that IF something like that every happens, that we can...."

It's like a voir dire without the actual trial. If things go to trial, well, you already know what your defences are.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I have a similar sentiment about Linus. He seems like he is overall a decent person, and I bet we would probably even be decent friends if we were to meet at a time before LTT/LMG, but I agree about wanting to punch him in the face sometimes. Some of the things he decides to dig his heels in about and be stubborn are really annoying. If he were just one of my friends, it would be pretty easy to either have a rational conversation with him or decide not to engage seriously and roast him about it, but instead he has a very large platform and a certain amount of influence that makes some of his takes a little more frustrating/damaging.

All of that said, I have still had worse bosses and the bulk of my career has probably been spent working at much less fun companies.

I'm not sure where I was going with that other than acknowledging that nuance exists and that he isn't evil or anything, just annoying.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Cr1TiKaL for me. I used to love him like 12 years ago when it was mostly just stupid stories over gameplay clips. Once he started showing his face and doing mostly lazy reaction and drama videos I really lost interest. Good on him for finding success, but man, I miss his old content sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Oh man yes, video game content aside, the flavor of the month posting and hot take machine from a dude who is incredibly insulated and wealthy now. It's a drag.

The machine trys to feed it to you when you are trying to get good video game commentary now too. Practically have to block him and analogues of him.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They're slaves to the algorithm. The algorithm favors the obnoxious.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Says a lot about where our society is going.

I know someone is going to make it sound easier than what it really is, but having to sift through the site, fighting against the algorithm's sorting to find something you like is hard.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Babish the instant he became the babish culinary universe. No complaints, just unsub and move on.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

I agree. He completely burnt himself out a year or so ago (a bit after BCU) and he wasn't even creating content for the channel. I'm still subbed, but I just watch the odd thing when I'm a bit bored.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Funny enough he's found a new niche he's been comparing tons of different brands for various food items and ranking them. Actually really informative and useful... I've found some new foods I love through that.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 months ago

I used to follow HeelvsBabyFace because he liked to do out-of-bounds videos of World of Warcraft (going to places in the game you weren't suppose to).

Then he suddenly started posting MAGA-style rants (woke this, pronouns that) and I had to bail out.

Not a difficult decision, but I was very disappointed.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 months ago

It's hard to tell if the youtubers are getting more annoying or if its my tastes that are changing. Probably both tbh

[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Damn, I don't know any of the YouTubers mentioned on the comments here. YouTube is so big now.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

That's probably for the best lol

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Codebullet. Went from absolute gem of niche content to over the top low-effort content aimed at teens, who presumably bring in the most ad revenue.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (5 children)

idk man his videaos are still entertaining and hes been doing this for a long time i honestly think that because hes done this for a while hes mellowing out on the effort part and just enjoying being a creator no need to burn yourself out for every vid

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I still love the old binging with babish videos, but his new stuff just seems to cater to the algorithm. I only stay subscribed for the anything with Alvin videos. I'm happy for babish and his success, but his new content ain't for me.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Same for me with Josh weismann. I want to watch cooking videos not the 50 tiktok food tends (nr47 Will shock you)

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I know he awful and his content has gone down hill but I still have a soft spot for jontron

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago

You're telling me you don't like waiting 9 months for him to spend 2 minutes advertising the shittiest pay to win mobile game followed by watching some mid 2000s bullshit with a few reactions? Maybe you just aren't a real fan

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Joshua Weissman over here. Dude just became repetitive childish annoying memes. Papa needs to shut the fuck up and just cook.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (6 children)

PewDiePie after he reached 100 million.

There's no effort anymore in his content, just turn on the camera and record whatever is in his mind at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

I stopped watching after he aided in the platforming of Ben Shapiro and said the glass ceiling didn't exist. That and the n word scandal.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

He never struck me as someone who put any real effort into his videos. It was mostly just him just yelling about stuff.

I never understood his market appeal.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Just another Monday for me by now... Have had to put so many once-beloved channels out to pasture. I really love YouTube for what it was (and still mostly is), making entertainment content something more personal than traditional TV... but it's changing. And change isn't inherently bad.

I will say that I'm having a harder time nowadays finding new content on YT that measures up. Just started a trial for Curiosity Stream today, and there are other platforms, too.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (3 children)

AngryJoe is getting there for me... Or as my wife says, AnalJoe.

He's so fucking anal about everything, he doesn't know how to balance his critics and Alex is just the worst. They're full of themselves and simply got money and fame to get to them.

They simply aren't enjoying things anymore and will divert their entire video to only ever criticising. The fallout review was a shit show. They're entitled to their opinion, but their high horse attitude and completely glossing over the valid criticism, they instead cherry picked easy to tackle comments and doubled down.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Sampson Boat Co has been solid. Really proud of Leo.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (4 children)

The Amazing Atheist after he became a stoner

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I grew up in a Christian family/community where asking questions was met with hostility, and discovering his channel was a major source of catharsis for me. But hooo boy, did he become a raging, unapologetic asshole.

To his credit, it seems like he wanted to mark a new chapter on his channel with these 4 uploads, and I think he succeeded... He's gotten a lot better in terms of being a tolerable person, but his stuff now just doesn't match the sharp and witty commentary from his scripted days.

(edit): Same with Matt Dillahunty. He used to be so well spoken, skilled at respectfully pointing out fallacious reasoning, and was a pretty likable person. His old Atheist Experience shows were gold. Now he's a raging asshole and has lost all of his grace, even though he may be right about what he's saying. And with Tracy Harris gone, AXP has lost both their bottles of lightning.

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