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[–] [email protected] 82 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Liberals love to say communists are violent, and then say shit like this.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The beauty of the rules based order is that it does a magic transmutation where nothing done legally can be violent whereas everything done illegally is violent by definition

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Also, there are no rules and everything is made up ad hoc

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

But also "legally" means "I, the protagonist of the universe, want to do it and as the self-appointed arbiter of such things formally say I get to do it as a treat" and "illegally" means "I do not like this and as the supreme arbiter of the universe unilaterally say it's bad and super not cool."

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I am violent because they do shit like this

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

aUthoRiTaRiAnIsm

[–] [email protected] 67 points 5 months ago

This is so psychopathic. Why would anyone care about a system of laws which permits killing a child? Who in the world cares about the distinction between "legally killed child" and "murdered child"? Who could read that sentence and think anything other than "whatever laws they are referring to are utterly worthless"?

[–] [email protected] 67 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Is it true that if someone takes a kid hostage, you're justified in killing the kid? Sounds fucked up, the idea that killing someone who is doing Bad Things is more important than protecting the life of an innocent child. Hmm. Not sure about this "international rules based" order the crackers keep talking about.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago

i don't think it is written in the statutes that you can. Israeli lawyers argue for their right to & to designate human shields as 'consensual' desolate Israel isn't party to Hostages Convention either

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (4 children)

One of the really fascinating things about October 7th was that Israel's top priority was openly "preventing Hamas from getting in", with all other considerations, like the preservation of Israeli life, coming second. Then you read stories about helicopters firing missiles without targeting carefully or those girls in tanks firing on kibbutz homes without a clear idea of who is inside, and it becomes an inevitable conclusion that the civilian death toll (such as it even existed, since there was a heavy military presence there) was almost entirely Israel's fault on an immediate level, even before getting into "Their policies made the attack inevitable" and such

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Next time a shooter attacks a school in Uvalde they should just send a drone strike, it's legally justified after all.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 5 months ago (2 children)

legally killed child is crazy

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Imagine an editor reading this and saying "now this is top notch journalism, let's publish!"

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 months ago

An infanticide that no one can see is also going to attract suspicion.

Then what the fuck has been happening? 15,000 dead kids isn't infanticide? Its been clear as fucking day to see from the start and throughout the history of Israel's occupation of Palestine. We're way beyond the point of growing suspicious. Fuck these people...illegal-to-say

[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The whole human shields thing is pure projection. We've seen plenty of examples of isntreal doing it but none of Palestinians doing it. They'll bomb a fucking hospital and claim that hamas was storing weapons there and therefore hamas was using the people as human shields.....but then they can't produce any convincing evidence that there were weapons there in the first place.

Always projection. The west kills kids and don't want to feel bad about it so blame the fucking people getting killed. Classic.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

We've seen plenty of examples of isntreal doing it

That's the other thing; the fact that isntraelis do it means that Hamas would go out of their way to avoid civilian casualties, so why would Hamas intentionally use human shields? The fact that the IOF believe that they can make effective use of human shields means that they know it would stop Hamas firing on them because Hamas would try and minimize civilian casualties.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Um, sweaty, if you know the law it is actually okay to murder children. Try reading a book sometime.

smuglord

[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 months ago

all palestinian violence against israel is self-defense.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Whoever wrote that should be ground into a fine paste as slowly as mechanically possible

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

one of those tomato paste machines?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

three hundred kilograms an hour message Wendy Ye on whatsapp

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago

If you can't fight your enemy without killing children (and this is legal), then why are we so judgy about "terrorists"?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I know that 15.000 dead children is bad optics but what if each of these kids were human shields, jumping to take a bullet for Mr. Hamas? That would also explain why the IOF hasn't been able to get Hamas yet, as they need to mow down these legions of kids first just to get a clear shot.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

Actually they've been selectively bred to evolve teleportation, this way they can be much better human shields jumping from one bullet to another 100m away at the blink of an eye

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If I'm elected these people will be thrown into a wood chipper.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Shit I may have to voooooooote

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was listening to NPR the other night, and a guest explained that the reason that 2/3 of people killed in Gaza are women and children is that Hamas used them all as human shields

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago

Hiding children in the pediatric wards no less

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago

I know there's a lot of noise being made about liberals' legality and civility fetish, but this is some Sorkin-on-steroids, bordering sovereign citizen "the law is like a magic spell" level of confusion.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago

But of course they’ll run false sob stories about how Russia is satan for killing white Ukrainian children

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago

The revolution that ~~feeds~~ doesn’t bomb the children gets my support.

yes-honey-left

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago

Remember, killing civilians is good if it is the US or Israel doing it.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago

It is possible to kill children legally

Ok, so they're going to argue about how that's cruel and war should always be a crime?

But the sight of a legally killed child is no less disturbing than the sight of a murdered one

ARE THEY DEFENDING THE LEGAL CHILD KILLERS??

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago

it is possible to kill children legally in minecraft

the lengths they go to justify killing children in real life is abhorrent

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I get a paywall from the Atlantic but I searched around and I think the author is Graeme Wood

Graeme Charles Arthur Wood (born August 21, 1979, in Polk County, Minnesota) is an American staff writer for The Atlantic and a lecturer in political science at Yale University since 2014. Prior to his staff writer position he was a contributing editor to The Atlantic, and he has also written for The Cambodia Daily, The New Yorker, The American Scholar, The New Republic, Bloomberg Businessweek, Culture+Travel, The Wall Street Journal and the International Herald Tribune. He served as books editor of Pacific Standard. He was awarded the 2015-2016 Edward R. Murrow Press Fellowship of the Council on Foreign Relations and a 2009 Reporting Fellowship Grant from the South Asian Journalists Association.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago

“It’s rude of Israel to not invite me to their child murder sessions when they know I’ll have their back.”

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

you laugh, but how else can israel defeat hamas supersoldiers wearing armor made of babies

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Technically they are correct because of the American Service-Members' Protection Act

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So…….the IDF going into Gaza and killing the kids makes them the attackers.

Their own horrific whataboutism still makes the IDFs actions illegal by whatever fucked up measure the author just made.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Like fucking no. It was wrong and a mistake even if it seemed necessary to kill the fucking Tsar's family, and they were direct threats to power.

And if I can't justify that I'm certainly not justifying fucking carpet bombing a safe zone.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

have you considered not murdering children?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

brought to you by the dear friends of "fighting the USSR in WW2 didn't necessarily make you a nazi"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Imagine writing that and thinking it's okay

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Legally speaking Mr Wood, you can euthanize yourself, legally speaking.

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