Can't believe they're attacking communism and pigpoopballs 
this post was submitted on 07 May 2024
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yeah fuck those commies, its propaganda of the deed time baby
But seriously the student protests have been gaining worldwide momentum, firebombing a frat house or similar action would be the ideal way to kill that dead in the water
They literally disrupted the May Day march this year then complained online about the "tankies" that organized it.
Fucking christ, I don't want to doxx myself more than I may have with the crumbs I've left behind on my current account, but, I've had to deal with these god damn losers to much too. I've made myself a pretty public face in a lot of local scenes which contain a lot of white people calling themselves anarchists; and when I joined PSL and started being open about like "Hey we're organizing this for Palestine" I got nothing but hate from these crackers. They're chauvinistic, deluded motherfuckers who pick on women and minorities because it's easier. I genuinely don't know how to deal with these fucking people, it's bizarre, there's so many connections that I considered friends but as soon as I started actually doing what I've been preaching (I've been an open communist for years, everyone knows) I'm suddenly enemy number one. It's been absolutely fucking terrible and has eroded my mental health, for what it's even worth, severely.
Right now I think we're finding that ML organizations are beginning to gain steam because there's people like me who've become completely disillusioned with the anarchist and "horizontal" organizing that's lead to jack and shit getting done or accomplished. ML organizations are the groups which have been able to articulate most meaningfully how this struggle is connected and have, in my experience, worked most successfully with local Palestinian and other anti-imperialist groups; this is why I joined PSL for god's sake! But jokers like this, useless self-defeating white chauvinistic people like this, I don't know what the hell to do with them. If we're not able to get past people like this as a movement for liberation, we'll get nowhere, their anti-intellectualism and adventurist tendencies (as well as general tendency for dramatic bullshit) are so counterproductive that it will lead to a new failed left if there's not a well-reasoned, articulated, and popular resistance against people like this. Fucking sick of it.
Edit: And to add, I've had to deal with so much paternalistic bullshit from white guys in their 30s who consider themselves "very serious organizers" who after lengthy conversations simply fall back onto thought terminating cliches (authoritarianism) or just outright threats of violence towards me and my friends. I have so much frustration built up it's ridiculous, I wish to god there was a clear solution but I nor anyone around me who's in a similar position can articulate it.
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Commit felonies that have little effect but that can easily be traced back to you.
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Armed community self-defense isn’t smashing the windows of frat houses and uncoordinated property destruction. Firebombing counterprotestors? You might as well kill someone of actual importance.
Want to get black bagged? because this is how you get black bagged.
So these people are adventurists. They say "fuck the communists" and call for acts of individualist terrorism. This is anti-Leninist thought. Do not do adventurism.
Here is a work by Lenin where he criticizes adventurism. As example, he criticizes socialist Stepan Balmashov for assassinating Russian politician Dmitry Sipyagin. Lenin writes, "everyone knows and sees perfectly well that this act was in no way connected with the masses and, moreover, could not have been by reason of the very way in which it was carried out—that the persons who committed this terrorist act neither counted on nor hoped for any definite action or support on the part of the masses. In their naïveté, the Socialist-Revolutionaries do not realise that their predilection for terrorism is causally most intimately linked with the fact that, from the very outset, they have always kept, and still keep, aloof from the working-class movement, without even attempting to become a party of the revolutionary class which is waging its class struggle."
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1902/sep/01.htm
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fuck the Communist pieces of shit
Ultra adventurist agent moment time...
The students there in the university are at least fighting it out more bravely by protesting...
If you do must have to commit violence, then at least use it to defend those protests...
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"fuck the Communist pieces of shit"? These either some feds or some sectarians; either way, they can go and get fucked right back with they cracker asses.
And no, before someone comes to me talking about "buhhhhhh pwease no fedjacket 🥺" these are not allies, not comrades, not anyone worth uplifting if they're gonna put "fuck the Communist pieces of shit" directly in a manifesto they intended for mass consumption. They want to put out that 'fuck them' energy, can't NOBODY be surprised when everyone around them keeps that same energy.
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26k follower journalist on Instagram. "Lots of tankies at the march" my sister in anti-capitalism the tankies organized the march.
anarchists love to pretend the results of demcent organizing are actually completely autonomous horizontalism
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What did the communists do? Lmao
We held a May Day rally, coordinated with other communist and SWANA groups in Portland to make connections with each other and with the local communities directly impacted by the genocide. There were speakers, musicians, posts, it was a lovely Big Red Tent.
Then the black bloc showed up during our march, lit off fireworks and assaulted a few people, so the march got called short. The SWANA groups we organized with were pissed. So many bridges were burned cause some anarchists who had nothing to do with organizing the event wanted to smash some windows.
They disrupted our event then complained online about tankies. Fucking fed shit.
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I'm assuming it's just old fashioned sectarianism, or at least someone trying to make it look like that.
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I don't trust this person to not rat me out for being a communist when they're arrested for burning a bunch of police cars that I as a taxpayer have to replace with better models. Such absolute fed shit that the FBI should hire this person if they aren't already on the payroll.
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Based based based
dirty commies
😭
communist pieces of shit
Was not expecting that part
I guess this is the thread where hexbear learns that the student occupations are overwhelmingly organized by anarchist groups who don't like the PSL. I don't know of any exceptions but would be happy to hear them. Certainly communists participated in the organization but it was predominantly an anarchist show.
It sucks these people are being overtly sectarian but you didn't hear much blowback here before this statement came out. Now it's adventurist this, fed that. Come on!
I guess this is the thread where hexbear learns that the student occupations are overwhelmingly organized by anarchist groups who don't like the PSL
not what I have seen at all. it isn't just being "overly sectarian" it is anticommunism-- literally fed shit. they risk a whole lot to pull this off and then use their statement to shit on communists
Take it from someone who sat in at encampment planning meetings where the specific question "should we involve the PSL" was asked and answered. The perception among organizers was that PSL is using events like this to drive membership instead of organizing to accomplish a specific goal like divestment. I don't agree with that assessment and think of myself as a communist and like the PSL but that is what I saw.
Anarchists when Communists want to support their project 
Anarchists when Communists have a project they weren't invited to 
idk, that's one example, and even if I disagree I can see why someone might say that. that is something anarchists say about every organization because anarchists don't "recruit" really. but I have more than a few direct counterexamples I have personally witnessed, so I would not say that encampments are primarily organized by anarchist groups. that is probably just something that varies from city to city
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student occupations are overwhelmingly organized by anarchist groups
this just isn't true, there are clearly a lot of communists involved with them as well. what is true is that all the sectarian parties that try to organise in a communist way have failed to play a significant role in them but some of the occupations were very clearly led by Marxists/Maoists lol
basically what this tells us is that none of the strictly communist organisations we have right now are capable of rising to the moment and many of them actually have a bad reputation amongst the advanced sections of the masses bc of a pattern of opportunism, tailism, commandism, etc... other organisations such as PYM and WOL are showing us the way, we have to learn from them.
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Now it's adventurist this
Probably cuz this specific action was adventurist.
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No, in my experience, despite anarchists still being the vast majority of the irl left (including sectarian jokers who, in my experience, will limit their work to admittedly awesome adventurist bullshit like this), in my area they completely dropped the ball and haven't sufficiently worked with SJP, whereas PSL has.
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What these people have done is brave, but if you are going to do adventurism, you might as well have fried some bacon as well, to really prove to me that you are serious. These people are just as afraid of confrontation with the larger problem as the current Communist parties are. They think property damage to completely unrelated parties is enough to bring about divestment, when any university that 'stands firm against chaos' has the potential to receive millions of dollars in endowments (bribes) from the powers that be.
I am going to use this little sideline action here to finally say what I say about ALL student protestors or any kind of action like this. What they are doing is commendable, brave, and I would never tell them not to do it. But it will not change things.
The only thing that has even an iota of possibly changing things is long-term organized labor coupled with the threat of revolutionary violence and the will to follow through with that threat. It has to be both! The reason why you have to have both is because those that control labor control the wealth of the nation, and can prevent the state from just immediately rebuilding their losses. If you cannot do that, you will always, inevitably, lose. Fidel won not because of his revolutionary violence, but because everyone in the region he was in was willing to use their labor to support him and his movement, the same goes for the Viet Min and any other revolutionary organization that has ever been successful..
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PPB cars 
"take whatever autonomous action feels good"
PPB cars
I think an increase in the militancy of the movement could be good, but this is just adventurism
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The St Paul Principles are a good baseline for solidarity and support:
- our solidarity will be based on respect for a diversity of tactics and the plans of other groups.
- the actions and tactics used will be organized to maintain a separation of time or space.
- any debates or criticisms will stay internal to the movement, avoiding any public or media denunciations of fellow activists and events.
- we oppose any state repression of dissent, including surveillance, infiltration, disruption and violence. we agree not to assist law enforcement actions against activists and others.
From what I can tell, some folks messed up bad. I'm glad some cop cars got torched and I hope these folks avoid capture.
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