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nuclear take: (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[-] [email protected] 108 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I get that but he's lost so many pixels is it really him?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

If you can recognize its him then yeah its him.

[-] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago

I have no horse in the Linux distro race, I'm just downvoting this inferior version of the meme format because fuck that guy.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

You can down vote on lemmy?

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

lemmy.one has disabled downvotes, it's up to admins of each instance if they allow viewing and making downvotes.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At least in the Voyager app. I have heard it's not the same thing as elsewhere but I haven't taken the time to understand how or why it's different.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use the Voyager web app via lemmy.one and it does not.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I also like this setting for displaying separate up and down votes

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Maybe the Lemmy instance I use blocks down votes?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That sounds reasonable to me! Would explain why the mobile app has it and the web app doesn't; I don't know if a Lemmy instance has a way to advertise the functions it supports to third party apps.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I think blocking downvotes is an option built into Lemmy servers that can be communicated through the API. I know there are a decent amount of instances that don't federate downvotes because of toxicity concerns.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

For me, the Boost Lemmy app let me downvote even though my instance has it disabled... It just quietly failed and when I go back the downvote isn't there.

The Jerboa and Voyager apps, on the other hand, don't: Voyager let's you try but correctly shows an error, while Jerboa flat out doesn't offer it since I can't anyway

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[-] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago

Bold :-) openSUSE is based on zypper and rpm. Arch Linux uses its own package system.

p.s. Please replace that Change my mind guy with a Calvin and Hobbes one.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Maybe they used him because it's a shit opinion?

[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

OpenSUSE was actually released long before Arch even existed. I'm an Arch user, btw, but I consider both operating systems to be excellent choices. Everyone has their own preferences. Let people enjoy what they like and embrace their individuality. We don't all have to be alike....

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

OpenSUSE was actually released long before Arch even existed.

You're basically right but just some historic facts added :

Judd Vinet started the Arch Linux project in March 2002. OpenSUSE : Its development was opened up to the community in 2005, which marked the creation of openSUSE. Before that it was called SUSE Linux, first released in 1994.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Somebody has never used opensuse. Zypper is an amazing package manager, one of the best on any distro.

It can handle flatpacks, native packages, and packages from the opensuse build system, keeping everything updated and organized.

Pacman is very basic by comparison, and a lot slower too in my experience.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Wait something can be slower than Zypper? Does it have a bunch of sleep(1) scattered around?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I guess I'm smart enough to install opensuse, but dumb enough that I somehow got slow pacman.

I kid you not, on my hardware zypper is the fastest between ubuntu apt, fedora dnf, and arch pacman. dnf was the second-fastest on my hardware, with apt and pacman being pretty sluggish

I've also used portage which was even slower, but probably not a fair comparison considering how much more complex it is.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Wait, zypper can handle flatpaks? How?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
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[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Steven Crowder is dumb enough to think that.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Serious question: What makes Arch's package manager so "great"? I always just found it confusing to use. The flags don't make any sense to me. It feels like you have to add a varying number of s or y to get it to do what you want. I never found it to be any faster or slower than any of the others (apart from portage of course) out there. And apart from the flags it doesn't seem to give me any more or less trouble than the others.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

pacman -Snstall -yefresh -yefresh -unly-upgrades

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

User is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

LOL, me using Debian for the first time.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

sudo is not installed. Check apt search sudo for possible sources.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

As a user it's definitely harder to get into than apt or dnf. However, as a packager, it's very easy to package new applications for pacman. That's also why the AUR offers this many packages often not found in other distros.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Dunno. Anecdotal, a few years ago pacman appeared to be much faster than apt-get for me. Currently I don't see that very much difference but then again I haven't paid much attention to it.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's fast. That's why it's great. I've considered switching to opensuse a lot, but the speed of pacman compared to how slow zypper is always drags me back to arch

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

OpenSUSE exists as a testbed for SLE, I don't think there's anything confusing about that. It's also much easier to get to a sensible setup for new users. If it weren't for the AUR and the Arch Wiki, I would probably still be using it.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Have you ever even used opensuse?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Arch has no reason to exist as almost all of it's benefits are replicated with nix without having your system fail to boot because you dared to update it.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

What the fuck do you do to have this happen?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Run pacman -Syu, reboot, and it fails to boot. Had it happen many times with arch and derivatives on multiple devices. It's far more likely to happen if you don't update for like a month.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Not updating in a month?! What kind of arch user is that?

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

First off, run Syyu, the old arch gods demand it

Also have a copy of pacman-static somewhere so that you can fix your shit in case of a partial upgrade (and trust me, it can go horribly wrong)

And thirdly, Arch is meant as a power user distro -- despite this abhorrent popularity it has gained, the fact of the matter remains that you need to know the system inside and out, if you make your arch system unable to boot..... Don't use arch

This is not my attempt at elitism. Arch was never meant to be a hassle free distro and it sure as shit is not one.

There are many maintenance-free distros you can use instead. Can I offer you a Debian in these trying times?

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Asshole meme template + really biased take. You really wanted to be downvoted aren't you ?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

doesn't opensuse have guis for every single thing you could possibly do?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Arch based distros are pretty stable in my experience. I actually had much more problems on distros like Debian and PopOs than Arch.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I hate it when I update Debian and it fails to boot. Oh wait...

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Problems I had were because of software not being on the latest version, not updates. Things just work on Arch for me. Only thing that ever broke was Xorg because of Nvidia drivers but that's pretty easy fix.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Sorry. I didn't even read it. I just down voted when I saw that terrible human being.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Arch stable ? I mean, from experience, I've had one break in stability so bad it made me hop : the lack of gentoo-like config protect. To be fair, I was on Artix but the breakage was versions of Pipewire deleting not just my changed config files but config files it couldn't run without ! Or to be fair, also, actual Arch but on my phone, plasma 5 package conflicts (that came as is from the installation image) prevent the whole system from updating πŸ™ƒ ... Never had any of those 2 problems on OpenSUSE or, to be fair, non-Arch-based distros

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