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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You can imagine what an uproar this would cause with blind or other vulgar democrats - my conspiracy with bismark

Shit never changes, does it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Marx stepped into a Romcom for a moment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nah he's too much of a wife guy for any romcom who's plot doesn't involve jenny

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this is one of the reasons I just can't believe Marx had a love child with the housekeeper

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

My rabid Christian fascist in denial libertarian co-worker preaches all day about Marx being a Demon worshiper who cheats on his wife willy-nilly and cites that dubious claim as historical facts.

I personally think it's more likely Engel's kid, not the child of someone else outside of Marx's household alltogether since all historical evidence that surrounds the man points towards him being a serial monogamous wife-guy with a bad case of loving his wife a huge amount.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Just imagining him going marx-joker "Oh you're Bismark's niece?? Funny..." in an ice cream shop lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this a good bio to read?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am on a quest to find the best Marx biography myself. Haven’t found it yet, seems like there isn’t one definitive one out there. Michael Heinrich has apparently written a great one but he’s only done one of three volumes (or the others haven’t been translated into English yet, I don’t remember).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'll check that out, the translation of vol 1 is published by Monthly Review, so I'll take that as a good sign

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, this whole time he could write clearly? Why didn't he do it in the shit you guys made me read?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I honestly really don't understand the claims that Marx is unclear, unless we just mean difficult. He is clear and relatively unambiguous when he introduces, uses and develops concepts. He can write densely, but the concepts are fairly clearly defined or characterized in his texts, and his system(s) of thought hang together extremely tightly, and the latter virtue might have been reinforced by the emphasis on systematic philosophy in German idealism. While his syntax can be write complex at times, the main difficulty of the text is due to the fact that he's doing serious scientific analysis. He's not just batting out essays for intellectual masturbation. Marx is a a writer where the difficulty of the writing is, to a great if still incomplete degree, a reflection of their scientific depth of insight and rigor of analysis. That being said he also has far less scientifically dense texts, and those I think are extremely clear.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey, I get that you're defending your boy, but your post comes across a little as "you're just too stupid for Marx."

I think your post misses the point though. Lots of people are told to "read Marx" when they come into the movement. It is, like you said, a scientifically dense text. This makes it a challenge for most people. This is a frustrating experience. The meme you're complaining about is people venting a common frustration with a movement rite-of-padsage.

But also, Marx finds ways to be unclear in some of his less rigorous texts. There's a couple common sins:

run on sentences that cover whole paragraphs

Whole chapters where the evidence is laid out long before the argument and you have to read for pages without knowing where he's going.

Words that mean one thing in day-today speech and something else in Marx (reproduction, fetish, realization, valorize, sublimate, etc.)

Jargon that doesn't usually show up outside of Marxism: reify, proletarian, etc.

Marx is unclear for 99% of people and pretending it's easy makes you look like a big-brained elitist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Factory workers understand Wage Price and Profit better than "middle-class" students because they are already familiar with the conditions.

Organizing a reading group is definitely useful though. Organizing in general is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you for making this point in a normal way