Edit: Image is from this Reuters article deconstructing Trump's latest rally.

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[–] 114 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The neat part is that they don't even need to get the most votes to elect a president. They have the advantage of low population density, which means their votes count for more.

Yay democracy.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I mean in that particular example it’s specifically a limit that was put on our democracy. Which is to say, make sure your state joins the national popular vote compact if they haven’t already:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago

    That's not the only example. The Senate and House also give low population density states outsized influence. So we'll end up with a popularly elected president thwarted by an undemocratic congress. Oh, and senates at the state level have the same problem.

    The entire system is fucked and I've given up thinking it's going to do good things. I've been burned too many times.

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  • [–] 63 points 2 years ago

    They really do view politics as team sport. I mean just look at how they dress and present themselves in public. If they can't make a show of their trump worship there's probably no point for them. They don't care about policy or ethics or making their lives better, they just want daddy trump to smash a homerun over the left wall and beat them libruls.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    The guy on the left looks like a mid 60s Spider-Man villain.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So this is what oxygen deprivation looks like

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    What is with the brick suit?

    I should say too... roll back the clock 20 years to these bitches mocking John Kerry for getting wounded in Vietnam:

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 2 years ago*

    What is with the brick suit?

    Had similar question. I guess "build the wall"?

    Possibly "🎵 He's a brick...HOUSE. Mighty mighty, just letting it all hang out🎵" ?

    Hard for me to get into the mind of some of these characters.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Democracy is the government of the people, by the people, for the people...but the people are retarded.

    • Some enlightened human a few years ago or something, I forgot his name.
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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    People usually get what they deserve, unless they deserve what they get. I sure hope the young ones all fired up (and rightly so) about the situation in Gaza also come to realize that by withholding their vote for Biden, or voting for a 3rd party candidate without a chance of winning, they are guaranteeing that Trump will take office, and if they think things are bad now, just wait till he starts (or rather continues) dismantling democracy. Then they will never have free speech nor the right to protest again.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It doesn't matter, if people are old or young. Problem is that far right is gaining support over the world, enemies are actively using propaganda and bribe our politicians and we ignore wealth inequality, which lets most wealthy people to override democracy. We either somehow deal with that or future will be really tough for all of us.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    It’s a shame that liberals expect so much more from their candidates. It leads to a party that gets fractured and just hands the win to Republicans.

    Considering our country already gives Republicans a head start with the electoral college, gerrymandering and the senate structure, this fracturing makes it even more difficult for liberals to win.

    2016 did so much to screw over liberals. Not just with the president, but with the senate and statewide elections. I honestly believe liberals won’t survive another Trump presidency.

    Edit: and Supreme Court… Dems should have had a 5-4 advantage if they just voted for a shitty candidate. Now we will likely be in the minority there for decades.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Dems should have had a 5-4 advantage if they just voted for a shitty candidate.

    I was there voting for the shitty candidate in 2016 and everyone else was blabbering about emails and how Trump could never win so why bother voting?

    Edit: In 2024 the same morons are blabbering on about genocide Joe and encouraging people to vote for third parties and shit here on Lemmy.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "Why bother voting" is the reason Trump gets into the office the first place.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Ti honestly believe the disapproval of Israel will be what gets Trump in office this year. Which is ironic cause he supports Israel even more and is even more antagonistic towards Iran. He moved the embassy fully validating Israel and invalidating Palestine.

    Also he ended the Iran nuclear agreement for no good reason then attacked a high ranking Iranian official right before the pandemic started. He would be all on board with world war 3.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It really boggles the mind. Conservatives are single issue voters, and they show up so their shitty single issue gets a huge amount of attention from candidates.

    Progressives are all-issue voters, meaning if a candidate doesn't support ALL of their issues then the progressive stays home. As a result, candidates pay attention to none of their issues and progress is slow.

    Progressives also view voting as a moral issue, i.e. if you vote for Joe Biden you're literally committing genocide and all the bad stuff that happens while Biden is president is your fault. In the same breath they'll tell you how helping Trump get elected by suppressing the vote isn't their fault and somehow absolve themselves of the moral implications of a Trump presidency.

    No one slows down progress as much as progressives.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They look like a parody of themselves.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I mean, statistically, a few will probably die of COVID or from drinking bleach, etc., before November. I swear their death rates have gotta been one reason for retaking congress in 2020.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Ha, maybe.

    Still all the more reason to get out and vote; let's not let it get too close for comfort (again).

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    I'm already voting, and not even as an anti-trump vote. I've literally benefited from one of Bidens tax credits and he's openly pro-union, which is rare for any dem (corporate sponsors being more lucrative).

    It's a minority opinion, but I don't think he gets enough credit for the good domestic policy even if some of it doesn't "stick" (like the EV credit being mostly Tesla lol)

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Do you not think it's odd that republicans have such dedicated voters while democrats have such non-committal voters? Why do you think that is?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Wild speculation: republicanism only exists as a cult created by the propaganda of a political party. Of course one of the core tenets of such a cult would be voting above all else. The Democratic voters are all the other, non-cult members who don’t have any such religious fanaticism about voting

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    I suspect it has something to do with the collapse of the new deal coalition and the rise of neoliberal economics such as trade deals meant to gut unions, finance and media consolidation, and ending the welfare state...

    But I'm just a blue collar boy... what do I know?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    As late as 1980s, the GOP had a Liberal wing. Once Reagan got his claws firmly embedded the Right was able to marginalize or remove them.

    There's an old saying in US politics; Democrats fall in love and GOP fall in line. GOP will vote for any candidate with an R next to their name, and the Dems want someone they can get excited about.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Trump grabs pussies.

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