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[–] [email protected] 184 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Heads up, the headline is kind of misleading. “Going sleeper” is just their internal slang for getting laid off. It doesn’t mean some kind of protest or activism.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The headline is stupid ... It basically says Geek Squad is laid off after getting laid off

Journalism is basically beyond saving at this point...

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

Journalism is basically beyond saving at this point...

I mean, it's basically a no name website. It's not like this is a NYTimes, AP, or The Atlantic headline.

Edit: I guess what I'm really asking is, it's a bad headline from a small publisher (it's surely happened many many times for decades), can't we leave it at that without the dramatization?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Overreacting and dramatization is what social media trained us to do, so I’ll go ahead and answer that question with… no, probably not. Or as social media taught me; I SLAM your comment DOWN!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

I clap back at your slamming of the previous poster's comment.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

If I'm not mistaken 404media is where a lot of the VICE crew ended up, so I am a bit underwhelmed/disappointed by the headline

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. They wanted to highlight the dumb “sleeper” line for some reason, even though it’s probably the least newsworthy part of the message. “Geek Squad faces huge layoffs, members call it ‘going sleeper’” is much clearer but still a waste of time and space.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

By today's journalism standards, you are ready for Chief Editor!

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

I used to go to Best Buy weekly to look for new movies and games, but since they eliminated movies and scaled back games, I've been doing all that shopping on Amazon instead... I guess it shows who wants my money and who doesn't.

Best Buy is going to end up being just another "Hey, remember ~~Fry's~~? ~~Circuit City~~? ~~CompUSA~~? ~~Good Guys~~? ~~Tower~~? ~~Computer City~~?"

[–] [email protected] 60 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Jesus Christ, content warning for that body count you crossed off at the end there.

Fuck. I miss all those shops. Can I get a R.I.P. for Babbages, Game Crazy (pre-hollywood buyout) and Software Etc... while we're at it?

No sense in not going totally dark here. Haha

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Babbages, Software Etc., EB Games, and Funcoland all got absorbed into what is now Gamestop, but who knows how long they'll hold on.

Game releases this year have been super light, unless there are some major announcements coming up, it's not looking great for them. :(

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah man, GameStop was at the forefront of what the industry as a whole is doing now. Acquiring, consuming, shitting out a husk.

I'm of 2 minds with GameStop nowadays. On one hand, it's somewhat nice to still have a physical game store. On the other, it's fucking GameStop and all the baggage that comes with that.

I don't see much of a future for physical shops at this point. Especially with Best Buy, Walmart and Kroger phasing out retail space.

Soon we'll have nothing but digital and subscription and I guess we'll like it? I'll hold on to my dragons hoard of physical games as long as I can (thanks Game Crazy for employing new throughout high school) but it'll be painful the day I realize I'm no longer adding new stuff to it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't know that I can forgive them for killing Think Geek. :(

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As an avid Bawls drinker, I 100% agree with this sentiment.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can still get Bawls if you travel to the US! In certain states. If the state has a Microcenter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Aww man, good to know! I wish we had a microcenter nearby. Closest one is at least a state away.

Maybe they'll ship it. Haha

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I remember software etc. They had a big event for the dreamcast being released. 9/9/99. I wore that free shirt with the date that I got there from playing sonic adventure for like 15 years

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Tower Records was my cult. I miss that place the most.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I only ever remember RadioShack selling prepaid phones, RC cars, and other consumer electronics, but apparently at one point in time they sold small-scale electronic components for hobbyists.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

lol yeah, in the 90s you could go in there and buy a couple resistors, a couple capacitors, and a couple (expensive, crappy) LEDs

I can see how that didn’t work out for them though

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They did indeed, and the Radio Shack in my town was one the last ones I ever saw to still sell individual components although the selection did shrink rapidly in the final years. The other locations around and about seemingly all turned into basically exclusively cell phone stores, right around the time the cell phone boom was happening. The problem with that: So was every other retailer on Earth, but most of those other retailers also had other product lines to fall back on. The inevitable tanking happened shortly thereafter.

There are somehow apparently still around 500 Radio Shack stores still operating, I believe all of which are privately owned. I have seen a couple in my travels, all of them located far out into the sticks in Appalachia and the Midwest, presumably all locations that are not served well by larger competitors or the internet.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Wonder if microcenter sells movies and tv shows. I don't buy stuff on Amazon anymore and try to buy stuff on ebay or local stores

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Not to any meaningful degree. You're better off at Vintage Stock tbh

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can't think where I've seen any there, some software but not even really games since those have largely gone for distribution via Steam or similar.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

And the infuriating thing is you get to cross of CompUSA twice from your list, because after they tanked the first time they got bought by TigerDirect, the brand was resurrected, and then they tanked again.

At least we still have MicroCenter. For now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

I miss full-power circuit city, when it was dying a slow death it was kinda hard to watch.

That said, nothing I miss more than radioshack.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

BestBuy has always sucked, and the only reason I'd ever go there is if I'm really hard up for something and I'm willing to get fleeced for the convenience. That's it. They have:

  • crappy selection
  • bad prices (I guess they price match)
  • unhelpful staff (not their fault)
  • bad store layout (everything I want is hidden in the corner somewhere)

But it's the only tech store in my area, aside from whatever Target or Walmart happens to have, so if I really need a SATA to USB cable or something, it's my only option for same day stuff.

So I'd be a little sad about them going out of business, but not overly so because they completely suck. I can count the things I've bought there on one hand, because the shopping experience is awful imo. I purchased tons of things at Fry's in the 2-ish years I lived near one and had money to spend. I prefer to buy at a brick and mortar (I spend a ton at Target), but BestBuy ain't it. If a Microcenter opened up near me, I'd do all my tech shopping there, but I refuse to shop at BestBuy.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Layoffs are always, always, always a sign of an unhealthy company, regardless of how Wall Steet reacts.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Or layoffs mean some exec wants to save money by outsourcing so he can get a bonus

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

An exec being able to do that without being questioned is not healthy. OP's point stands.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

They’re going to get bonuses anyway.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

15 years with geek squad and you're not wrong, I got caught up in these layoffs and thought I'm stressed the high hell, I'm not surprised. There wasn't work to do, I was struggling to barely get 30 hours.

They recently changed there subscription modle and people stopped scheduling on site jobs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Without having looked at any of the subscription changes, my guess is they increased subscription costs with minimal if any increases in offered services. Is that correct?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Nope, actually lowered the price of the subscription, lowered the discount on the services the sub was for, and raised the prices of the services.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

FBI offered to Geek Squad a bounty on incriminating evidence found on long-term storage of computers they serviced and a lot of GS techs made those reports.

That is to say GS had no concern for privacy or fourth amendment protections during the era of rising surveillance awareness.

So I don't care if they never wake up.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Yes, a handful of BestBuy employees accepted payments from the FBI to report on CP found on a customers device. So let's all feel good about underpaid workers losing their jobs in this economy.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I knew a guy who made one of those reports. It was CP.

You seem kind of upset about people being caught for this. Am I misreading you?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

The problem isn't that the computers had CP, it's that the techs looked through the data.

Yes, if they happen to see CP while doing their normal work, they should report it. But their normal work shouldn't involve looking through pictures at all in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you thinking of this instance? It's an instance that could happen to any of us. The CSAM in question was found (and only found) in garbage data in unused storage. And it means our GS tech had actively scan (go out of his way), rather than just fix the machine.

It also means it's inconclusive, since that kind of stuff can end up in your webcache through malware vectored through advertising. CSAM is weaponized in malware. Heck, there are CSAM images in the Bitcoin blockchain file (or were, if they found a way to scour them). Not that innocent websurfers have not been falsely convicted due to invisible crap in their cleared webcache, but we should know better by now.

It does raise a question about what you believe regarding the limits of our civil rights. Do you believe evidence illegally obtained by law enforcement should be wholly admissible if the crime is heinous enough? SCOTUS does, and ruled that even drug possession discovered during an illegal search should be admissible. But that pretty much means you and I cannot rely on constitutional protections from unreasonable search and seizure.

Here in the States, preserving our protections and our privacy sometimes means defending the worst people. See, it's supposed to be a penalty against the state for poorly executing the law when someone can't be convicted due to inadmissible evidence. If a guilty citizen is improperly treated by law enforcement (according to the legal theory that supposed Blackstone's ratio) then they should be acquitted, and the public has only the incompetence of state actors to blame.

Law enforcement is supposed to respect your protections, and if we let them conduct illegal searches (such as buying data from brokers, or using IMSI spoofers without a warrant, or asking Google for everyone within a mile and an hour of a criminal incident) then they're going conduct those same illegal searches when you're working with your mutual aid organization or are protesting against injustice. If serial killers and child molesters aren't protected from overpolicing, then you aren't either, and if you happen to be nonwhite, LGBT+ or part of another marginalized group (Juggalos!) then you're in far more danger of illegal searches, false convictions and prison time, assuming you're just not the victim of an officer-involved homicide.

If you live in the US, it's very difficult not to commit crimes, particularly federal felonies. There but for your privacy (and / or the grace of prosecutorial discretion) goes your freedom and reputation.

That said, the FBI has been super sloppy in its pursuit to hunt down CSAM traders, even letting their high-end malware leak into the public to be dissected and used by black-hats, and interests of rival nations.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

No, that's not the case I mean. I mean I personally worked at Best Buy and knew a person who worked GS who made a report to the FBI. I don't know the outcome of that report or even if it lead to any kind of prosecution.

It does raise a question about what you believe regarding the limits of our civil rights. Do you believe evidence illegally obtained by law enforcement should be wholly admissible if the crime is heinous enough?

Reporting a crime you observed first-hand is not an encroachment on anyone's civil rights. Is that what you meant to say here? If it is, I wholeheartedly disagree.

I remember recent discussions on Mastodon I was half following where admins of certain instances where posting directions on how to make FBI reports if/when they find users posting things like CP. Are those admins encroaching on their users 4th amendment rights by reporting a crime? I think not.

With that said, I think there is a line between reporting a crime you happen across and a systematized search of user's private files encouraged and paid for by government entities.

From your link,

Riddet says agents conducted two additional searches of the computer without obtaining necessary warrants, lied to trick a federal magistrate judge into authorizing a search warrant, then tried to cover up their misdeeds by initially hiding records.

For the record, THAT is a problem, in my eyes and not what my original comment was about.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Hey man, you're kinda narrowing down the entire problem of the right to privacy being consistently shat upon by your government into "well I knew one person where it was justified so this means those who argue against it fuck kids"

I understand what you mean and if you want to carve an exception into the law for CP I'd be all for it - maybe everyone is a mandated reporter of child porn, and all suspicions MUST be reported to the FBI and the evidence handed over. But I don't wanna get swatted just because my wife and I are into BDSM and we photographed a particularly rough session. Or because I took some pics of some clear plastic bags filled with flour that I put in my trunk to prank a friend. Or a million other things a geek squad guy might misinterpret and call the police for.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Note: article puts a rectangle in front of the article when you've read half of it.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

sacrificed a lot of personal time and experiences just to be let go

Corporations have one goal: making money.

Right behind that is self preservation, which is in full service of continuing to make money.

If corporations show that they care about you, it is in service of you making money for them. They do not care about you, they care about money. You have to make an effort to look out for yourself, and for your team mates that you care about. Make sure you and your close team mates are not being overworked, because the company will not do so unless they are forced to or unless they think that doing so will make them more money.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Corporations have one goal: making money.

Right behind that is self preservation, which is in full service of continuing to make money.

That secondary goal is falling far, far behind in importance.

These days most shareholders will insist on a higher payout this quarter, even if it directly threatens the long term viability of the enterprise.

The shareholders are not in it for the long haul, they only want to get in, make a quick buck, and get out as fast as possible before the whole thing collapses.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Damn sleeper agents.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

These geek squad folks go hard with the veiled lay-off references.

Await the signal, friends.

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