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[–] 157 points 2 years ago (26 children)

It sounds like things are going well for this guy and that is great and all, but how much would we honestly expect to hear if it wasn't going well?

This story is circulating all the media outlets and feels more like PR than a legit example of how this procedure is actually going to work for most people.

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  • [–] 57 points 2 years ago* (21 children)

    It sounds like things are going well for this guy and that is great and all, but how much would we honestly expect to hear if it wasn't going well?

    Given how eager people are to pounce on negative news about anything Elon Musk-related, I expect we would be hearing way, way more about this if it wasn't going well. "Elon Musk's Neuralink Damages a Man's Brain!" and "Elon Musk's Neuralink Fails!" Headlines and such from every rooftop.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    Can't we just fling him into the sun and let someone else take over these companies?

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    That takes an immense amount of fuel. We orbit the sun at 30 km/s, of which you have to cancel about 24 km/s to actually hit it. This is after escaping Earth's atmosphere (another 11 km/s of delta V) and effective sphere of influence which takes even more fuel. We could use some gravity assists off the moon and inner planets to get there, but even then it's not really economical. Our best bet would be to send him out super far using ~9 km/s of dV, and then use a very small amount to cancel out any remaining angular momentum and let him slowly fall into the sun. Unfortunately, as with all efficient space maneuvers, you pay for them in time, and this maneuver would take you 3 years. We'd have to somehow support the little bastard all that time but it might just be doable.

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    [–] 110 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    My only concern is that people are going to think that he only stayed playing civ all night because it’s exciting to do something. But that’s not the case.

    Innocent people are going to try this game and keep saying “one more turn”.

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    [–] 86 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    I think it's an amazing advancement and that's awesome for a quadriplegic person to interact with the world.

    The part that I haven't heard anyone mention is what is the life cycle of these chips. Computers and cell phones all become outdated so quickly. Are recipients guaranteed upgraded chips as they become available?

    I was reading an article recently about people who have had implants in their eyes that help them to see become obsolete. One because the company stopped supporting the specific version that was in the patient. The other because the company had gone out of business.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 years ago

    Even if the chip never went obsolete, the scar tissue build up around implanted brain devices interferes with signal over time and they need to be replaced.

    Also, each installation/replacement has a few percentage point chance of leading to a life threatening infection.

    Unless both those issues are solved, irrespective of obsolescence this is only the sort of thing that makes sense for patients who feel that their life is effectively over without it and have low risk thresholds for treatment options.

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    [–] 66 points 2 years ago (5 children)
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    [–] 61 points 2 years ago

    I’m very happy for this guy. Fuck musk.

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  • [–] 54 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    The start of the article is confusing. Given what it tells us that the patient has been doing, it sounds like the chip only acts as a receptor of the brain's outputs, this is, the chip should act on the brain as little as possible. However,

    The billionaire also hinted at the time that the implant was functioning well and had detected a “promising neuron spike”.

    Which makes it sound like the very opposite. Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if Elon had no goddamn idea about what the implant does yet rushed to comment on it anyway.

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    [–] 37 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I don't know why, I have zero reason to even think this. Maybe it's my growing distaste for Musk and his bullshit. But something about this whole thing has my "press X to doubt" meter going off the charts.

    If I'm wrong. Great. But something in my gut tells me that you don't just go from multiple dead test subjects and a steven king novel's worth of FDA investigations, to suddenly having someone using it perfectly fine with no side effects.

    Again, this is all allegedly. I have no proof or evidence either way. It's just my own gut. So don't sue me, Elon.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    We've been able to do this for years. The difficult part has been making it cheap, reliable and non-invasive. Electrodes in the brain degrade neural tissue and... There's good reason this isn't done on the regular.

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago

    I was expecting the source to be The Onion

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  • [+] 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I have 200 hours in Civ 6, and have yet to win a game on anything except points. The latter eras are such a slog.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You almost need to pick your victory condition at the start and focus everything on that, and what you can't focus on that win condition you focus on denying the win for someone else, whoever happens to be winning by that point. Generally the same will be over before you get to the modern era.

    Religion and war are the sloggiest.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    I want Doom running on a Neuralink outputting the game directly in your eyes

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    [–] 16 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    I'm pretty sure this could be done non-invasively like 5 years ago if not 10

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Fuck Elon, but that’s awesome for this guy.

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