"learn to code" was always about increasing the supply of labor so they could reduce their costs.

It's going to have to get much much worse before engineers unionize. I am sorry to say my fellows do not occupy reality in a class sense and these layoffs are just a taste of what's to come.

I also don't encounter a lot of the "learn to code" types irl, if ever. If anything, i hear pushback on outsourcing and bootcamps. I wonder how much of that sentiment was actual engineers vs students online who hadn't entered the workforce yet.

Most engineers I know are OK but not at all class conscious people.

I also have some bias here, I don't live or work on the coasts so the silicon valley elistist tech bro musk worshipping cutthroat competitive culture you see at big tech is just not there. And those types tend to be the loudest shittiest dudes online.

Midwest here, most folks just treat it as a job like any other. Still won't fucking unionize though, US propaganda is too strong.

everyone should be a plumber so that anyone can fix plumbing on their own instead of paying others to do it. how will a person get food if everyone's a plumber?

Shoutout to my dad in 2020 who told me to become a blockchain developer because it was the future.

I am not a programmer at all, btw.

i dont really know what to do. i learned to code and right now i can't get a job.

all of my experience is in programming, so i can't really get into other industries. i can't do most jobs bc i am disabled and cannot drive, so the fact all the current advice is "do a job that requires the ability to drive" really isn't helpful. like even if i made enough money to move to the city i still couldn't be a plumber.

if anyone has any advice on jobs that are remote i would appreciate it

Was it coders saying that? I thought it was out of touch politicians.

wow you mean the money faucet running dry means suddenly all the startups that could never and would never turn a profit suddenly collapsed? shocking

A handful of speculative super-bubbles are on the verge of popping (one might argue that sites like Twitter have already popped and just won't admit it).

The overwhelming majority of software engineers and systems architects and coders are either

a) doing just fine in their non-imploding industries, such as finance and energy and manufacturing

b) eating the same pile of dogshit they've been eating for the last 30 years, assuming they're doing entertainment software or working Fivr jobs or otherwise engaged in the most precarious forms of software development work

This isn't bad news for coders. This is bad news for Silicon Valley VCs and their promise of unlimited borrowing capacity.

they've already moved from "learn to code" to "go to trade school and learn to weld"

I still think we should learn to code just cuz its a genuinely useful skill and we shouldn't let giant corporations determine what software we use

Skill issue. I would simply write a barista script in the AngularJS framework.

As someone actively trying to get into the industry, this is a certified bummer. I'll keep working at it anyway.

not me, when 99,999 coders get laid off because AI took their jobs, they're all going to sit around and do nothing all day, meanwhile I'm going to be the one who continues to apply for jobs or use those AI tools to make 50 micro-startups!!!

I would simply move to a peripheral country poor enough for outsourcers to hire me. In fact they were already doing it, gentrifying the shit out of everywhere.

Plus Romanian is an easy language

Damn I picked a bad time to "learn to code"

Definitely not a recession