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[–] 98 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Trump also ordered a few coup attempts that we'll learn about soon enough.

People need to stop acting like he was "at least good in terms of foreign policy."

They never are.

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Qasem Solemani yea

    Most ppl forgot about that because covid came soon after.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I could very easily see Hilary pulling this trigger (or Obama or Bush for that matter).

    If anything, I suspect Trump mismanagement of the occupation probably was what opened up diplomacy with Iran wide enough to convince Solemani that a visit was possible. The bombing (of Iraq's own airfield!) was just Trump trying to slam the door shut after the horse had left.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I could very easily see Hilary pulling this trigger (or Obama or Bush for that matter).

    Obama had reached a diplomatic agreement with Iran on their nuclear program; Trump was a big step backwards there, as he was on Cuba. Even with the DPRK I don't think anything substantive materialized.

    Looking at everything reasonable in Trump's favor, he was just as bad as Obama on foreign policy. "He was actually OK there" has always been more contrarian than anything.

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  • [–] 54 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    few coup attempts

    Off the top of my head... Venezuela, Cuba, Hong Kong? I'm sure there are more.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    I just assume the CIA brings any president paperwork for this kind of stuff and says “sign this or you’re dead.” Like there will never be an American president that doesn’t do this kind of stuff. American foreign policy is inherently hostile by nature.

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    [–] 89 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    LOL Isn't this what China was supposedly doing with TikTok?

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  • [–] 88 points 2 years ago* (8 children)

    The effort, which began in 2019, has not previously been reported.

    Source: Gallup

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Is this a poll of Americans? I don't think Chinese people have an approval rate of 15% of their own country.

    The reported CIA activity occurred in China.

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    [–] 83 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Russia and China have troll farms. America has teams of operatives.

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  • [–] 77 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    2019 is the year the Winnie the Pooh shit started.

    Call me crazy but I have never thought that shit was organic "from Chinese people on their internet". This makes me even more suspicious about its origins.

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  • [+] 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 75 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's worth noting that this wouldn't be necessary if the government of China didn't have broad support and legitimacy.

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    [–] 69 points 2 years ago
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    Dumbass Chinese liberals ate it up too. Right-Wing west fetishists are lower than worms.

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  • [–] 67 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    How much of the so-called "authoritarianism" of communism would cease to exist if capitalism simply...allowed other economic systems to coexist?

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    [–] 65 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I decided to see what the sinophobic den of reddit-logo has to say about this, and unsurprisingly most of the libs there try to act like it's nothing, and totally normal. (Except when Russia or China does it in their eyes, then it's bad) On r/neoliberal they're more concerned about this being public than the actual operation itself. I saw them calling it an "extremely uncommon Trump W". No surprise there, I suppose. Despite their theatrical opposition to Trump, they support all this sort of scummy shit, as long as it's done silently in the background and with a dose of decorum. Fucking scumbags. barbara-pit

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    [–] 58 points 2 years ago*

    Always a self admission when US officials accuse other states of trying to influence the American state through media

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    [–] 51 points 2 years ago

    the west attacks you and calls your self-defense authoritarianism

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  • [–] 51 points 2 years ago

    Looks like a classic case of accuse others that which you are guilty of wrt TikTok.

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago*

    And some dumb libs fell for it. I'd bet a lot of this was also pushed on Western social media too, where it would have the greatest effect on the more rabidly pro-war, anti-Chinese racists.

    I fucking hate America.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago

    Prager and the DOD have accounts on Chinese social media lol

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