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[–] 47 points 2 years ago (62 children)

I'm not aware of anyone here that says Trump was "good" on foreign policy. The critique is that he's a substantially less effective steward of the imperial machine and even does accidental propaganda work against it.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (58 children)

    That would be an unpopular opinion among most people here, "of course".

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Who cares what the popular opinion here is? It’s wrong lmao

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago

    The point is in the air quotes, as parent was (and is) being condescending and escalatory rather than engage in a comradely way. My hope was that by pointing out they were being condescending to more than just myself might give them pause and to change the way they were interacting. As you can see, that strategy of mine didn't work lol.

    Your question is about relevance, and I actually agree. That was actually my point in its own less direct way. My grandparent reply was to say they were mischaracterizing a sentiment but the response didn't actually address that, so I drew attention to the misdirection. I think I was unclear about that being the point, though.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (55 children)

    Then ask every single Hexbearer what they think and come back to me if you want instead of speaking for everyone.

    Of course.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago (54 children)

    Do you think these are reasonable responses to the things I'm saying?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (53 children)

    Yes. You're literally speaking for the 26k users on Hexbear.

    Nobody really thinks that, like a MAGA communist might say, Trump is somehow "less dangerous" or whatever. Or "at least he's honest" or "reveals the dreck of U.S. imperialism."

    He's done more to radicalize people to the ultra-right than most U.S. Presidents.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (48 children)

    The idea that Trump was a less competent imperialist is very popular here. You are straw manning this to mean, "every person who has every registered an account here agrees with me". Do you think this is a reasonable way to approach what I've disagreed with you about?

    Can you state, in your own words, what points I've made?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Another thing:

    I'm asking you to ask 26k users on Hexbear what they think and do some sort of poll before acting like your opinion or viewpoint is the most popular.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    "The idea that Trump was a less competent imperialist is very popular here."

    You don't know that.

    Ask the 26k people on Hexbear what they think, each one, or don't bother trying to convince me.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Did you notice that you didn't answer my question?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (32 children)

    "Can you state, in your own words, what points I've made?"

    Okay, you know what? If you're going to keep editing your comments like this after I reply in order to make it look like I'm not answering your other points then, no, I'm not going to bother.

    Stop adding things to your comments like that.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    26k users lmao. 26k accounts, of which 90% are dead or banned, and the remaining 10% include tons of alts and duplicates. There's probably like 2000 active users on this site.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Untrue to what degree though? One of his biggest scandals was attempting to refuse military aid to Ukraine in an effort to get dirt on Biden. Ultimately ineffective, but his attempted actions in this scenario prove the point.

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