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[–] [email protected] 88 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

The effort, which began in 2019, has not previously been reported.

Source: Gallup

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Hey that’s weird, opinion is mostly unchanged for like 30 years, then in 2018 it just becomes net positive, and then immediately after it unfavorability jumps sky-high. Surely just a coincidence.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yup and this, even after Trump campaigned against China through 2015-16

Though I think this needs more analysis. I can think of at least one pandemic that was blamed on China in early 2020 which might be the actual start of the decline.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

That would be my guess also, and is probably the simplest explanation. The US media beat the "Chinese virus" drum very, very hard and a lot of people still seem to believe that China is mostly to blame for COVID. It's at least possible that this was part of the same effort to discredit China both to the Chinese and to the world broadly, and that COVID was just a "happy" coincidence for the already existing propaganda campaign.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (3 children)

post 2020 its not that surprising: covid happened.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think the Uyghur accusations played a pretty huge role though, there is no legitimate reason for that huge decline in 2019.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

HK/Uighur stuff was the CIA psychological operation being discussed here. Uighur separatism was a project of the CIA in Afghanistan since we invaded, they indirectly caused the Urumqi riots that lead to the anti-terrorism policies of China. Then when their operatives started getting locked up and their ETIM terrorist networks smashed apart, they whined about it as "genocide" to the media through pseudo-academics like Zenz.

Hong Kong protests were NED funded, meaning the CIA also was running and operating those.

The American public reaction and acceptance to both is also emblematic of the CIA's control over US media and social media narratives. This stuff is all directly related and connected.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

covid is what made me love China, their response to it was better than any capitalist nation and proved their distinction and reaffirmed to me they were still a dictatorship of the proletariat. It's so weird to me that I have the exact opposite opinion of the median American in every single way. Another example is after Afghanistan withdrawal the approval rating of Biden plummeted, but in my opinion it was the one half-decent concession he made during his entire term, but for Americans their collective egos got bruised so they whined about how bad it looked for them.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This sucks so much that propaganda is so effective on people in the US. Like, I know not-immune-to-propaganda but I would still hope that sentiment isn't that malleable over a couple years. amerikkka

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I unfortunately work with a whole host of ex TLA people and they're even more thoroughly propagandized than your average american imo. They're extremely intelligent in so many ways but so absolutely blind to the programming that it's pretty awe inspiring.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"No one is immune to propaganda" does not equal "everyone is equally scrupulous when confronted with propaganda"

You can judge people who repeatedly fall for blatant bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago

thats wild, holy shit

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is this a poll of Americans? I don't think Chinese people have an approval rate of 15% of their own country.

The reported CIA activity occurred in China.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It is a poll of Americans, yes. I did see that the CIA activity occurred in China and I get what you're saying, I just refuse to believe that the goal was only to cause internal chaos in China.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

1000% its a limited hangout. There's definitely been an ongoing social media campaign to prime the pump for escalating tensions with China.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

If you're already researching vulnerabilities and strategies to drive anti-China sentiments in China, how much more effort is it to adapt them domestically?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Leaking to foreign news wad probably meant to create stories that would circle back to the US.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

He's a what? he's a what?
He's a newspaper man
And he gets his best ideas
From a newspaper stand;
From his boots to his pants
To his comments and his rants
He knows that any little article will do!