Yes Israel is occupying Palestine, no disagreement there. But the reason why there's no end to that in sight is because there's no Palestinian leadership that will negotiate in good faith.

Many Palestinians have been indoctrinated into a fascist mentality where they're obsessed over a perceived historical humiliation, believe they deserve the land the history books tell them their ancestors used to have, and are trapped in the vicious cycle of a hate movement which results in them supporting authoritarian psychopaths. Look at what it took to break Germans out of this mentality. I believe Palestinians are people and like the German people, they are capable of getting out of this.

But the hateful rhetoric people in the west are now spewing and the fact that nut-jobs are now joining in on the cycle of violence isn't helping the Palestinian people. They aren't gaining anything through terrorism (or violent resistance as you want to excuse it as). Look at the photos of Gaza right now. Do you honestly think "violent resistance" is gaining the Palestinian people anything? Gaza looks exactly like German cities did by the end of WWII. Hatred makes people feel like it's making them stronger, but in reality it just makes them stupid. The Germans were stupid in WWII just as Palestinians are being stupid right now. But like the German people, they are capable of realizing their hatred makes them stupid and building a peaceful and prosperous society.

You agree with calling immigrant "invaders"? How about the children on immigrants? You're being 100% consistent with the people that espouse the "white genocide" rhetoric, just you're targeting a different ethnicity.

over 80% of the population of Israel was born there. People have a right to live where they're born FFS. This "colonizer" rhetoric is all about rationalizing ethnic cleansing. The genocide rhetoric is all about normalizing the idea of genocide against Jews. It's obvious you just want to kill Jews, and now because of this kind of rhetoric people are actually killing Jews.

There were negotiations in the 90s that would lead to a Palestinian state. Arafat was a corrupt asshole so that didn't work out. Then Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza. Palestinians voted for Hamas taking that as a sign of weakness. Hamas has held onto power ever since, refusing to have elections.

You should get your facts straight, there have been multiple opportunities for a Palestinian state, but Palestinians chose violence instead. They want all the lands "from the river to the sea" not just Gaza and the West Bank. What you're calling a genocide is actually what a war looks like when one side is militarily superior to it's enemy. And what other genocide in history has there been where the victims were holding hostages?

Palestinians don't have the capability to defeat Israel through arms, and Hamas is only getting people killed needlessly. Their goal isn't anything that benefits Palestinians, it's to create a scenario that allows them to produce propaganda which they can profit from.

A non-violent resistance movement would be successful. Countries around the world would support that. What Hamas did by taking hostages makes world leaders ask themselves what they would do if a terrorist group massacred villages and took hostages? And the answer is that no country would do things significantly different from what Israel is doing in this scenario. Sure there's a few things that Israel has done wrong, but the overall war against Hamas is something that no one other than some easily manipulated children thinks is wrong. Hamas is holding Israelis in Gaza, that brought war to Gaza.

It may surprise you to learn that many Palestinians are against Hamas and their senseless war. But they tend to get tortured to death by Hamas if they speak out against them. It's easy for you to root for Hamas when you're thousands of miles away and it's not your house being bombed to shit in a war that was started by your government massacring people and taking hostages. You can eat popcorn like a psychopath while people are dying because you can get internet points for acting like a badass and encouraging the war to continue. But this isn't a movie and people are really dying while Hamas cowardly hides in tunnels and continues to hold people hostages.

Armed resistance is what's preventing there from being a Palestinian state. If it weren't for Arafat and then Hamas wanting to continue armed resistance for their own profit there would've been a Palestinian state decades ago.

Uhhh... these assholes are terrorists.

Yeah Italy just rolled over in WWII while Germany fought to the bitter end. Do you think it was better that Germany continued fighting when it was obvious they'd lost because some authoritarian asshole convinced them they should own all of the land they wanted with no more Jews?

Look at the photos of German cities at the end of WWII and look at Gaza. This kind of senseless hatred doesn't accomplish anything other than getting a lot of people killed.

Palestinians are dying because of the hatred of Hamas and it will accomplish exactly nothing.

Apparenlty telling your customers to go fuck themselves isn't a good business strategy.

Basically that's what they did with Ocean's 11. The original Frank Sinatra version was shit. But it was a good idea, a crew of super cool dudes get together to rob a casino.

They remade it and it was very successful.

The Thing has a similar origin.

But it's rare things like that happen because Hollywood execs usually need an existing property with good numbers to greenlight a movie.

Yeah that's the only way it makes sense.

I mean if you have a functioning phone and you felt you were in danger, would you sit around waiting for someone to call you?

Our guy was obviously having a merry old time out hiking, and ignoring unknown numbers. Then only found out later someone else was freaked out about him being lost.

But a story like that isn't going to get shared as a facebook meme...

Also it's actually not that hard to quit smoking. I've quit smoking four times.

An internal combustion engine came up to me, big strong internal combustion engine, tears in his eyes, and said "Sir, I want to thank for all you've done for this country, from the bottom of my spark plugs."

I wouldn't say it's leftist, though there's a lot of leftists here. Lemmy is more like how internet discussion boards used to be. There's a lot of people with weird opinions on things, and there's no Reddit Karma pushing people to conform to the consensus. So people are going to have weird takes on things, and there's not 1000 comments upvoted above the weird ones, so you're going to see comments like that. So reply to with you your weird opinions on those weird comments.

Welcome to the version internet that's not pre-packaged and filtered to be bland!