Thanks for the reference, did not feel like anyone understood what I was saying the first time and I'm glad to see someone did. I entirely agree with your idea! A perfect example!

None of this is a reply to what I said, really.

I agree with everything you just said in the first paragraph. I'm talking about making any sort of organized preparations before taking action to resist or anything. That didn't happen, so the acceleration of the hate and violence was worsened with no viable way to see any benefit. Kirk was a fascist and I'm glad he's dead so we don't have to hear him anymore with his fascist bullshit. But that doesn't make it any less dangerous that he was killed without any way for the vulnerable in the US to defend themselves. The killer would've done at least some benefit by doing disorganized mutual aid.

The second paragraph also has nothing to do with what I said. This person didn't "reach out to fascists to mark their friend for death," that he would be killed for it was set in stone pretty early on. And I'm not speaking about doing something for ones own benefit, Im talking about being willing to throw away someone working against a greater goal (who knows if that's this case? Above we were already talking in hypotheticals, so I'm still doing that).

I agree that we don't know and I'm speculating on the hypothetical where the informant is trans. But that's the convo above? I was just replying to that.

We don't know the shooter's motives, but there is no way that this is part of any trans-supportive organization strategy, that would be a ridiculous claim. It has zero characteristics of any organized actions, and reactions until now have been perfectly in line with it being unorganized. I don't think we're better off with Kirk dead, genuinely. His impact is bigger now, and his fascism spread is only accelerated. I hadn't seen a single video of him for years and now the US is gonna move quicker to kill trans people than ever before, and to crack down and kill leftists too. With no propaganda push prepared, no defenses set up, this was an opening salvo across the battle lines at a fort without even digging a trench.

You are arguing everywhere about the specifics of the situation, but like Awoo, I am trying to get to the bottom of when snitching is acceptable, but I don't think it's NEVER a justifiable action. In this case, we should be thinking about whether talking had any positive impact on the way media reported on trans people generally (again, assuming the informant is trans). I think I agree that in this case, seeing how the media reacted, it helped nothing and was likely a mistake

When do we get subtitles? Immediately?? Hexbear watch party?

Is it supposed to be mocking right wingers?? Like at first I laughed because I thought that, but now I can't tell

Not trans, so let me know if I'm off base, but my thoughts:

A major difference is that this is adventurist. Being a snitch about something that was useless and possibly actually working against a greater strategy can be the correct choice for a broader movement. Killing Nazis was basically always part of at least a broader movement, even if not every event was planned/known to others in the movement. Killing Kirk was in no plan for improvements or part of any meaningful strategy. If nobody knew, nobody wanted it, then it's qualitatively very distinct from resistance movements and should be treated very differently. 'Sacrificing' the person who was no part of your movement by collaborating can be the correct choice in those cases.

Idk the real relationships that existed in these cases, but I'm willing to bet that this roommate was in no part knowledgeable about the killing beforehand. And that there were 0 organized attempts/movements behind this killing. In which case it should be treated like anarchistic noise which harms a movement.

Was this AI bullshit or something? I can't tell what level of irony I'm supposed to watch that with lol

I always think that why-angel emoji looks like Biden lol

It'd also just so mind-blowing to me that they are legit gonna fuck up another country out in imperial-fall-lashing out.

Part of me genuinely wonders if this isn't a diversion though, and they are about to bomb Mexico or something. It seems too obvious right now to go for Venezuela. They're not geniuses but there are at least some majors that would tell Trump to be more tactful. Or maybe they're gonna do some pager-like bullshit and then the diversion is less necessary. How many gusano venezuelans could they deploy?

Good thoughts, it reminds me of Losurdo's concept of a representative of a class that doesn't do what the class broadly wants, but instead what it needs to protect it from itself. Tucker does seem aware of protecting the bourgeoisie from their own incompetences and inability to strategically break with their fake ideals when needed.

got it, I actually kinda enjoyed watching it because Sam Altman doesn't know how to be tactical about it, but I don't blame you. Then I agree entirely, he is clearly very conscious of his class position

Generally fully agreed, he's a scary and horrible person, but is this video a showcase of that? Seemed to me very bourgeois infighting? He's just trying to make clout by talking about obvious shit that Media won't, and he will definitely want to use that clout to build up power to do the fascist shit he wants. But how was that class conscious?