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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by CornWoman@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

It's finally happened. r/communism is formally a Gonzaloite cesspool. This happened after a few months of openly displaying the Shining Path hammer & sickle as the sub's logo.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 47 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I've had conversations with one of their mods before, years ago. They've always been Gonzaloites.

[-] CornWoman@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

They seem to be rather peculiar for Gonzaloites in that they really like Sakai. Most Gonzalo people I've met dislike Sakai, sometimes even considering him a revisionist.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

must be american gonzaloites then

[-] MeetMeAtTheMovies@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

Why the change to make it more explicit now then? Any ideas?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 36 points 2 months ago

I doubt there's any real plan involved. Probably just mood. Got fed up one time too many with people's disagreements with the mod team so now it's official party line of the sub instead of their internal beliefs.

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 42 points 2 months ago

Everything turns to shit on Reddit, leftist subs included

[-] OffSeasonPrincess@hexbear.net 39 points 2 months ago

Im sure the rule will again be changed to "no non-MLM-Gonzalo thought- adherents" since afaik many gonzaloites also hate other kinds of maoists

[-] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

Damn...thought I'd finally found a home for MLM (Prachanda Path) people like me

[-] CornWoman@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

Hey! Don't you mean Contributions of Universal Validity of Chairman Gonzalo? Gonzalo Thought is only for Peru!

[-] MeetMeAtTheMovies@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?

[-] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

DIE, HERETIC! *douses in boiling water*

[-] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

I took far too long on this edit but I thought you all would enjoy.

[-] Dimmer06@hexbear.net 38 points 2 months ago

Damn the PPW finally actually conquered something.

[-] Bolshechick@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago
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[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

damn that got a chuckle out of me

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago

If any communist doesnt just call themself a communist unless asked to be more specific they should be met with deep distrust.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm at a point where I don't even think communists need to be more specific unless they are actively a member of an organization that follows a particular strategy deliberately aligned with whatever tendency. As in, unless a person is physically performing leftist action in the real world I don't see major distinctions between disparate groups of people in the west based on vague affinity for certain political philosophies.

Like what even is a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist if it's a person whose primary affiliation with like minded people is a discord channel or a sub reddit? Is it just a posting style or something you can announce affiliation with all willy nilly. Like I'm reminded of the libertarians who have all these goofy subgroups like ancaps, argorists, minarchists, etc and yet these groups have no consequence outside of forum arguments.

I'm not excluding myself in this by the way. I haven't done proper work in a few years, and even when I did I floated through both Marxist and anarchist groups so the specific ideological label thing never sat right with me. I'm just communist. Theory is fun to talk about and argue over but like we're all in the same boat here

[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is exactly my attitude as well. We're light-years away from a scenario where even ML vs. anarchist might truly matter for anything beyond a choice of day-to-day tactics (and I think there's room for different orgs pursuing different tactics), much less ML vs. MLM. I'll work with anyone pursuing the destruction of global capitalism and its replacement with anything that isn't even worse. In my experience, these sectarian differences matter very little to most people doing direct action in the real world. Organizations that are super preoccupied with ideological purity and never working with people who have a different "flavor" of communism are rarely doing much that's important anyway.

[-] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

In my experience, these sectarian differences matter very little to most people doing direct action in the real world.

100% in an org I used to be a part of we had anarchists, MLs, an MLMs working together and would always joke about sectarianism and who was going to band together to beat up one of the other tendency aligned members. Nobody fucking cares what you call yourself if you are doing the work.

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[-] 9to5@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

Yeah unless you are part of a party or an active movement that is doing praxis right now I dont see the point in calling myself a posadist-with neo-swiss characteristics or something like that.

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[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago

I think I've only seen one Gonzalo stan on Hexbear, and it was someone from one of those smaller ideologically murky forums who was being shit on for being an anticommunist. It's such a weird Trotskyite kind of dynamic.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago
[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago

boil em mash em stick em in a stew

[-] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Maybe not the time to bring it up, but what's the actual source for the baby boiling? I've never looked into it deeply tbh, but assume there's probably some good evidence, which is why is accepted fact in most leftist circles and not just considered another intel agency atrocity propaganda fabrication

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

iirc it's a conflation of incidents where they killed babies and where they burned adults with whatever fluid

[-] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you had sources for either incident I'd appreciate it

[-] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago
[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

Most of the replies are illiterately stumbling over exactly the topic in question and it's a little distressing how people can't parse a sentence, even if the phrasing on Black Like Mao's part is silly.

[-] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

Oh wow, you weren't kidding. jesus-christ

That's genuinely really bleak.

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[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago

"petty bourgeoise radicals only"

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago

Lmao funny seeing Gonzalo having a cult following with weird gringo leftists

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago

what's the deal with gonzalo

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

killing babies and throwing boiling [something] at people

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago

ok but why do these weirdos support it, what's the angle

[-] puppygirlpets@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago
[-] jack@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Because it means revolution in the imperial core is impossible so they don't need to do anything

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago

Very few people support it, it's not a reasonable ideology. The angle is that corporate and government can't have a agreeable ideology on r/communism

[-] cornishon@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 months ago

IMHO, the same reason Hoxhaists exist. Both of them were very hard on the anti-revisionism train, which makes it a very inciting ideology for someone who want to call themselves a communist but be vehemently against any successful communist project.

[-] deforestgump@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago
[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Wtf r/communism used to be a relaxed non-sectarian space with good posting

[-] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

That was a long as time ago before the literal CIA took over administering reddit and banned r/cth. It's been shit for years.

[-] ConcreteHalloween@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

r/kkkcommunism

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

The “communist” subs on Reddit have been moderated by sectarian losers for years. There are some good posts by casual participants, so there is some utility to those spaces, but it’s entirely hamstrung by those in charge

[-] corvidenjoyer@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Does anyone even know why someone would unironically stan Gonzalo?

[-] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Led a revolution that at one point seemed like it would succeed near the time of the height of the "end of history". It didn't succeed, AFAIK in large part because of various issues with the Shining Path as a group (and Gonzalo as a leader), but I think that's why (at least partly) some people do like Gonzalo.

[-] puppygirlpets@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

if you read anything from the shining path you immediately realize that they're a freakish cult

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[-] CornWoman@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

It has to do with his fanatical anti-revisionism (or what he considered "anti-revisionism") and massive ego. He did nothing to discourage the personality cult.

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[-] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

What? Dissenting voices? In my echo chamber?

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