[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yeah not even halfway in and it is just madness. Also not unlikely the Roy guy just made things up.

Guess the author didn't think of asking about the inconsistencies in the mans story cause they both bonded over disliking unhoused people. (The horrible unhoused people who mumble incoherently vs the chad founder who shouts 'will you be a cofounder with me?' at people).

But nope just post the blackpillers words uncritically. Do not mention that this bold truthteller who doesnt like to be told what to do or he gets enraged spend a year at home to save his parents business (and admits to that damaging their business).

Alexander is one of the leading proponents of rationalism

Is he? Or is he just calling himself that. Claiming to be a Rationalist is easier than actually doing it of course.

For rationalists, the divide between truth and falsehood is very important;

Only for the outgroup. (Saying this in relation to Scott 'Secret NRx'/'I didnt read the book I reviewed' is something).

"Racing cum is definitely interesting.” I found Eric very hard not to like.

Might want to reflect on that a bit. And why this is more a pr piece than journalism. (Did he even check all these people got kicked out of their highschools?)

Re donald boat.

Why didn't people just block him? Why doesnt the author talk about this?

I told Donald the theory I’d been nursing

This explains, the author wants to be them.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 1 points 19 hours ago

Nope sorry, just a bad attempt at a joke. Made sense in my head the first time, now less ;).

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 14 points 1 day ago

Tante.cc writes about Cory using an 'Drunk Uncle' style argument to defend his LLM usage (and go after the left using strawmans).

(To counter one of Cory's arguments, If disliking LLMs was just about the people who run it, people against it would have have stayed in sneerclub).

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 1 points 1 day ago

I was trying to make a joke (and failing) about how people misuse terms. Sorry about it not landing. Should have thought about it better.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago

Rip the stately home.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago

Time to say 'Sneerclub was correct' a lot, so we can frontload the 'factcheckers'.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

the Gen-Z men shut out by elite institutions often join their grandfathers and turn toward MAGA, or worse, into Groypers.

Iirc that is not as often true as people claim it is. But yeah, not gonna click unherd to see if they have a source. Because blergh unherd.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago

Think you did, I only followed it up with a google and finding that site.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 13 points 3 days ago

Not beating the 'this is just Christianity with the labels removed' allegations.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

We are in the singularity this is so hard to explain to people.

Describes a normal thing, a think also talked about for several decades in science fiction now.

Amazing the singularity term has now been downgraded to "ai stuff that is hard to explain to laymen".

Thet think their incremental innovations are radical.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

According to a site : https://apocaloptimist.net/the-apocaloptimist/

"An Apocaloptimist sees the trouble, but is optimistic we can do anything–including fixing all the world’s problems"

So if jesus wins the war during the second coming all problems are fixed.

(~~The thing is also nuts "we are the people actually working on fixing things [by hoping AGI will fix it all for us]", my brother in Eschatology you are running a podcast~~ sorry the guy is unrelated to the agi people theyvare just using his term).

E: does seem the site itself isnt about AI so they just stole this guys term. Nope they just took this clean energy guys term, sorry about sneering at him he seems to actually want to introduce clean energy and works hard (that seems to be a lot of conventions and blogging however, so buying ourself out of the capitalist problems) for it, as far as I can tell.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 3 days ago

Ow god it is pop culture references all the way down. Tvthropes is skynet! You gotta tell them!

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Via reddits sneerclub. Thanks u/aiworldism.

I have called LW a cult incubator for a while now, and while the term has not catched on, nice to see more reporting on the problem that lw makes you more likely to join a cult.

https://www.aipanic.news/p/the-rationality-trap the original link for the people who dont like archive.is used the archive because I dont like substack and want to discourage its use.

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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by Soyweiser@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

As found by @gerikson here, more from the anti anti TESCREAL crowd. How the antis are actually R9PRESENTATIONALism. Ottokar expanded on their idea in a blog post.

Original link.

I have not read the bigger blog post yet btw, just assumed it would be sneerable and posted it here for everyone's amusement. Learn about your own true motives today. (This could be a troll of course, boy does he drop a lot of names and thinks that is enough to link things).

E: alternative title: Ideological Turing Test, a critical failure

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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by Soyweiser@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

Original title 'What we talk about when we talk about risk'. article explains medical risk and why the polygenic embryo selection people think about it the wrong way. Includes a mention of one of our Scotts (you know the one). Non archived link: https://theinfinitesimal.substack.com/p/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about

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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by Soyweiser@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

Begrudgingly Yeast (@begrudginglyyeast.bsky.social) on bsky informed me that I should read this short story called 'Death and the Gorgon' by Greg Egan as he has a good handle on the subjects/subjects we talk about. We have talked about Greg before on Reddit.

I was glad I did, so going to suggest that more people he do it. The only complaint you can have is that it gives no real 'steelman' airtime to the subjects/subjects it is being negative about. But well, he doesn't have to, he isn't the guardian. Anyway, not going to spoil it, best to just give it a read.

And if you are wondering, did the lesswrongers also read it? Of course: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/hx5EkHFH5hGzngZDs/comment-on-death-and-the-gorgon (Warning, spoilers for the story)

(Note im not sure this pdf was intended to be public, I did find it on google, but might not be meant to be accessible this way).

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Soyweiser@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

The interview itself

Got the interview via Dr. Émile P. Torres on twitter

Somebody else sneered: 'Makings of some fantastic sitcom skits here.

"No, I can't wash the skidmarks out of my knickers, love. I'm too busy getting some incredibly high EV worrying done about the Basilisk. Can't you wash them?"

https://mathbabe.org/2024/03/16/an-interview-with-someone-who-left-effective-altruism/

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Some light sneerclub content in these dark times.

Eliezer complements Musk on the creation of community notes. (A project which predates the takeover of twitter by a couple of years (see the join date: https://twitter.com/CommunityNotes )).

In reaction Musk admits he never read HPMOR and he suggests a watered down Turing test involving HPMOR.

Eliezer invents HPMOR wireheads in reaction to this.

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