this post was submitted on 06 Apr 2024
211 points (80.2% liked)

News

23259 readers
4333 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

The Democratic Party and the DNC and all the affiliates are nothing more than tools for whatever vaguely left of american center interest group wants to use them.

There's no massive conspiracy to keep the Democrats Neoliberal, and if there is anything even similar to that, it's happening behind closed doors in Wall Street, not Washington.

They'll keep doing whatever they want without changing as long as people keep voting for him.

How long have you been involved in politics? I dont mean for that to sound demeaning. We've gone from Neoliberal democrats and Clinton gutting social welfare in the 90s to Socialists being integrated into the broader coalition, both parties have changed and will continue to change immensely over time. Ignoring that because you're upset about Bernie losing the primary in 2016 and 2020 and disconnecting completely from the party is just a ticket to irrelevance, and I say that as someone who worked on some of Bernie's first barnstorm events and both presidential campaigns.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's funny the way this thread went. I don't think people paid attention to how much the Democratic party changed after 2016 after the Bernie peeps found out about how the party is actually structured. But there ended up being 3 types of new grassroots activists.

  1. The ones that quickly found out that the DNC isn't some authoritarian regime who instead pulled up their seat at the table and effected change.
  2. The ones that quickly found out that the DNC isn't some authoritarian regime and who wouldn't compromise with anyone and quickly became irrelevant but still cried that the system was still rigged (while their compatriots looked on in disgust lamenting the extra power to affect change they would have if they would vote as a block).
  3. Those who got in and then tried to pull the ladder up to prevent themselves from losing their position the same way they accused others of doing.
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Completely agree, I really don't know why these people think the DNC is some massive evil force trying to crush the grassroots leftie activism.

I'm pasting this from one of my earlier comments, but I feel like it's incredibly relevant.

If you don't like the policies of the moderate Democrats then volunteer for your local party, most of the people running your county party are old as fuck, that's one of the main problems with the Dems. Vote in every single primary for the most progressive option. Donate to and volunteer for your progressive state representatives/senators. Help your coworkers organize a union and increase your lobbying power. Join a progressive/socialist election work group like Progressive Victory or any of the countless others. If you aren't doing at least one of these regularly, then you have no right to complain that the party isn't listening to you. You've given them no reason to.

I deeply feel that none of the people in this thread commenting about the malevolent DNC have done these, and kept doing them since the Bernie campaigns.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I love how democrats just throw out the word “conspiracy” whenever they’re trying to make rational ideas sound crazy.

There is no “conspiracy” to keep the dnc neoliberal. They do it right out in the fucking open and they couldn’t be more clear about it.

The current Dem leader in the house is an actual public school buster with direct ties to private school corporations yet we still have blatant shills like you trying to gaslight us into believing that the democrats aren’t intentionally pro-corporate neoliberals. That’s fucking hilarious.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

There is no “conspiracy” to keep the dnc neoliberal. They do it right out in the fucking open and they couldn’t be more clear about it.

That would still be a conspiracy, I never said it was a conspiracy theory. But if having Caucus leadership of a certain ideology makes the entire party that ideology, let's look at the largest democratic caucus and who leads it

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Progressive_Caucus

Well look at that, it's the largest caucus of the Democratic Party and its literally lead by a socialist. The entire democratic party must be socialist /s.

We are definitely trying to fight with capitalists over who "owns" the party right now, but walking away from the fight now and trying the same thing the CPUSA and SPA have been trying for a century would be stupid.