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China has scared the US into abandoning neoliberalism, rethinking globalization, and becoming more isolationist and protectionist. I think China has also convinced the Federal government that more state involvement in the economy is necessary. Perhaps this will move the US in the direction of a more state directed market economy, much like, well, China. It's fascinating how much influence our "enemies" can have on us.
Sorry... you think neoliberalism is a good thing?
Who did you vote for in the Republican primary?
No, I don't support neoliberalism. The point of my comment wasn't to lament the death of neoliberalism, it was to point out how remarkable it is that China got Washington to turn against its own policies. The US has been trying to push the "Washington consensus" on the rest of the world for nearly half a century, only to do a total 180 now that they realize their policies might be a threat to their own national security. I find it very ironic.
If, as I think you're saying, there was a thought that engaging with China in the free market would create more democratic-like conditions there but the US Gov'ts involvement in the open-market of email services (Micro$oft) has had the opposite effect and possibly taught them to not hand over everything to the free market for problems exactly like this, then, yeah, that's ironic.
However - and this should not be glossed over - any organization be it private, state, federal, nonprofit - whatever - who doesn't maintain their own email servers and connectivity is essentially abandoning its security posture to other companies.
That's standard practice of course, and one of Micro$oft's big selling points: "we'll handle everything, just sign here". But of course they're average at it, and they can't be everywhere at once. Most people are average-to-awful at it, because computer security is amazingly complicated once you dig into any given aspect of it. Not letting Micro$oft off the hook - they absolutely made bad trade-offs and opened the government up to Chinese hackers - just that anyone who thinks you can just contract someone else to do your information security and all is well is really not making a good decision.
We've outsourced everything and the stupid electronic agreements that say what the conditions are don't mean a damned thing. What, is Micro$oft going to pay a fine equal to ten minutes of their profits?
And here's the point - it was always the case. We argued against signing everything over to Micro$oft for decades and here we are. It's never been any different. No one should be surprised at all. We were always going to end up here, sooner or later.
I don't know that I agree with their conclusions, but I don't see them saying what you're implying. Including in their post history.
Maybe they don't know what neoliberalism is then (and possibly not you either):
They only spoke to trends. No endorsement of an ideology.
You inferred, then implied in your question. It's a classic miscommunication, but it creates hostility and can seem like operating in bad faith.
In life's great big does-this-matter-heaps-a-tron... Not a lot. But I'd hope lemmy can avoid the reddit instinct to be contrary or begin by assuming a person is wrong.