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Alice Duer Miller

Alice Duer Miller (July 28, 1874 – August 22, 1942) was an American writer whose poetry actively influenced political opinion. Her feminist verses influenced political opinion during the American suffrage movement, and her verse novel The White Cliffs influenced political thought during the U.S.'s entry into World War II. She also wrote novels and screenplays.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (4 children)

She liked the "Why we oppose ______________________" format.

Why We Oppose Pockets for Women by Alice Duer Miller - Poems | Academy of American Poets

  1. Because pockets are not a natural right.

  2. Because the great majority of women do not want pockets. If they did they would have them.

  3. Because whenever women have had pockets they have not used them.

  4. Because women are required to carry enough things as it is, without the additional burden of pockets.

  5. Because it would make dissension between husband and wife as to whose pockets were to be filled.

  6. Because it would destroy man’s chivalry toward woman, if he did not have to carry all her things in his pockets.

  7. Because men are men, and women are women. We must not fly in the face of nature.

  8. Because pockets have been used by men to carry tobacco, pipes, whiskey flasks, chewing gum and compromising letters. We see no reason to suppose that women would use them more wisely.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)
  1. Because it would make dissension between husband and wife as to whose pockets were to be filled.

This is deep.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh God, Lemmy does that too? (Turn your quoted 5 into a 1)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's just markdown. Following a number with a period and a space is how you tell it to insert a numerical list, which always starts at 1. If you want to avoid that, you need to use the escape character: \

It's just the same way using asterisks around words makes them italic. If you want to actually display the *asterisks* you have to tell it not to do that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Oh yeah I get that. I had an argument with several reddit admins back when the redesign was first happening about respecting the actual number used rather than starting from 1 and I still, to this day, don't see why this is better in any way. People will ask questions and it will screw up the answer, people will quote from an ordered list and it will screw up the quote, and so on. The only benefit that they could tell me was that if someone was writing their comment and added a new step/list item they don't have to shift the numbers manually, but I don't see how that is worth all the misquotes and issues it causes. Sad to see Lemmy does the same thing, but maybe it can still be fixed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Classic PEBKAC error. If you wanna quote one item in a numbered list just use the escape character to prevent it from starting it as a new numbered list. Like, if you tried to quote my *asterisks* it would turn the word asterisks italic, which is the exact same issue. But I don't personally think they should remove the asterisks turning things italic, it's a convenient feature.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not saying remove markdown or any of its features, I'm saying use the number provided for ordered lists. This avoids user error and makes for a more predictable user experience. I'm aware of escape characters.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I'd much much rather have the list automatically re-number everything than have to go do it manually for large lists

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

And I would rather the other way.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

7. Because men are men, and women are women. We must not fly in the face of nature.

Me out there cross-breeding pants trees for increased pocket size

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

I had no clue the lack of pockets is an issue that’s existed for over a century now. Ffs clothes companies, just give women’s clothing pockets that work.