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Why do I lack the ability to trust white people who claim to be progressive or leftist? (hexbear.net)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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When a person of color, especially if they're black like me, affirms their support for causes such as queer liberation, feminism, animal rights, or socialism, I immediately feel that I can believe, with minimal doubt, that they're truly convicted and principled in what they're advocating for.

However, when a white person claims to support leftism, until my skepticism is proven wrong, I immediately assume they're a dishonest and performative libshit. I then proceed to interact with them with hefty amounts of caution. If my assumptions are proven true, I'm never shocked.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

What if they're visibly queer white people? Immigrants? Disabled?

I get what you mean though. I'm just curious honestly because I have almost the same thing but towards queer people

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

None of those groups are exempt from this guideline.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Honestly as a disabled queer second-generation immigrant who'd be classified as "white" by the US census if I lived in one of those occupation zones, you're not wrong. I have seen some absolutely ridiculous bullshit from people who on the surface have almost the exact same conditions as me — it's in fact those experiences that have convinced me that I cannot rely on disability, queerness, or immigrant status, not even in combination, as a reliable predictor for good politics: whiteness tends to overpower everything with its stink in most cases, but every system has its entropy, and sometimes somebody will slip through the cracks... Some factors might increase the odds, but never in a way that should be counted on, never.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

All those people are racist too dude

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Oh I meant as a general predictor of good politics. I'm not from the US so it may be different there but I think in the UK it's a lot easier to find an anti-racist queer person than a person of colour who's not queerphobic

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Queer white dudes have fucked with my heart and mental; and one of 'em was disabled. Like, "said all the right things just to keep me from suspecting I was their token" fucked with. Trust has to be earned from me unless I already outright know, likely through third-party introduction, that you're on the level and actually either cognitively or existentially kinfolk.