I once applied for a job where one of the requirements was "minimum 5 to 10 years experience in X". My friend told me to submit a CV saying I have 3 to 6 years experience in X and see if they shortlist me.

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[+] 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (21 children)
  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    The higher bound is an indication of maximum salary. It's saying "we need at least 5 years experience, but if you have 30, we're paying you like you have 5."

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  • [+] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)
  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I've been hiring people for 10 years. Before it was common to post salaries, this was a good way to not waste people's time interviewing for jobs below their rate.

    It's in the requirement section because that's the section we are able to modify on the stupid Excel sheet that the recruiters force us to use.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Your naivety and ignorance about the way people use language and the way the world works is no one's responsibility to correct but your's.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Talk about apologist conjecture.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    I don't agree. I'm currently looking for a developer with 5-10 years of experience. I don't want a guy so green he's grass, I also don't want someone that has so much experience that he'll be super expensive and or stuck in their ways. I want someone who knows what they're doing, but can still learn more.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    "5-10 years experience" is a range of time anyone can understand. "MINIMUM 5-10 years" is a range that makes absolutely no sense. Imagine if the speed limit signs in your area said "maximum 35-45 mph" and tell me how fast you're allowed to drive.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Speed limit signs with ranges would make sense if given some additional clarification by the issuing authority. For example:

    • The upper bound is the limit in perfect conditions; the lower bound is the limit when the weather is bad in any way
    • The upper bound is the limit when there’s no traffic. The lower bound is the limit when there’s substantial traffic.
    • The upper bound is the limit normally. The lower bound is the limit during school hours.

    Even without a clarification drivers could probably assume it’s some combination of the above.

    (A job description could have the same clarification but probably doesn’t, as “minimum” is just an error on the part of the person writing it. But they could say “5-10 years minimum experience, depending on level and nature of education,” and then a reader could infer that a person with a relevant Master’s degree might need 5 years of experience; a relevant Bachelor’s degree - 6 years minimum; a major in something else - 8 years minimum; only a high school diploma - 10 years minimum.)

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago

    Those clarifications are in the driving manual you should have studied to get your license. The posted limit is only accurate under ideal conditions, often being affected by weather and local conditions. In most places you can be ticketed for speeding by driving at the limit during rain or other weather events. Posting a range of numbers would just add clutter and limit readability, the range is implicit on the road because it is explicitly laid out in elsewhere through regulation.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    IMO the "stuck in their ways" isn't about experience at all. It's about good or bad devs. I've seen green devs stuck in their ways.

    Sometimes managers or devs who don't know any better think that knowing the right thing to do is the same as being inflexible, because they don't understand the rationale since they aren't experienced programmers.

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