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The envelope never made it to Judge Arthur Engoron, but caused an emergency response at the courthouse.

Judge Arthur Engoron, who handed down a $355 million ruling against former President Donald Trump in his civil fraud trial, was sent an envelope containing white powder on Wednesday, causing an emergency response at his New York City courthouse, a source with direct knowledge of the incident confirmed to NBC News.

The judge and his staff were not exposed to the substance — his mail is pre-screened on a daily basis and was intercepted before it reached him, the source said. A court officer opened the letter and powder fell out, according to the New York Police Department, exposing the officer and another court employee to the substance, the source said. The New York City Fire Department said the two refused any medical treatment. The threatening letter was first reported by ABC News.

The threat is far from the first against the judge. Police on Long Island responded to a bomb threat at his home last month, hours before closing arguments in the Trump trial were scheduled to begin.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Letter boxes don’t stamp the specific location in most places. And even if they did, you could just use an outgoing box at a large community, or someone’s house mailbox.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, but the CCTV installation surely will.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The ones I mentioned pepper almost every London junction. In metro areas, there's also loads of private installations that can be looked at to help identify and track individuals.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, maybe in the police-state UK. But we don’t have that over here. And even if we did, as I said, they couldn’t narrow down the exact box in the postal code and if it was in a heavy traffic are there could be thousands of people dropping mail off daily.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Not in the UK.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There aren’t cameras watching every nook and cranny of my major metropolitan city. That’s not reality.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you live in a major US city? Police 1000% frequently sepenia businesses for CCTV footage, and are increasingly getting standing access to existing cameras. And to a lesser degree I believe they are installing their own cameras, but I have hit my limit of finding sources for someone else's comment while taking a shit.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

This just says the police access cameras. It doesn’t say that there are cameras on every male receptacle from apartment complexes to individual houses. There are plenty of places without cameras to put an outgoing letter. I’m not really sure what you’re arguing about. I’m right

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Mail drop boxes are not in nooks or crannies. In a city you can bet every intersection and retail space has you on video. Even if you found the truman show magic spot where the cameras don't see, you still need to pass by them to travel there. Further, All corporate retail and most of the rest are using geofencing to track and advertise. If you enter their fence and are not identifiable you are now part of less than 1% of people who maintain minimal privacy. Which makes you stand out for anyone looking for someone nefarious. we are to the point that it is in the courts now to decide if a burner phone itself substantiates intent to commit a crime even. Some idiocracy unscannable kinda shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

You can place outgoing mail in anyone’s house mailbox and flip up the flag. The chances of identifying the specific house is next to nothing.