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A set of smart vending machines at the University of Waterloo is expected to be removed from campus after students raised privacy concerns about their software.

The machines have M&M artwork on them and sell chocolate and other candy. They are located throughout campus, including in the Modern Languages building and Hagey Hall.

Earlier this month, a student noticed an error message on one of the machines in the Modern Languages building. It appeared to indicate there was a problem with a facial recognition application.

"We wouldn't have known if it weren't for the application error. There's no warning here," said River Stanley, a fourth-year student, who investigated the machines for an article in the university publication, mathNEWS.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Why the living hell would anyone agree to develop this? What douchbags are doing that job?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are people who actually believe that kind of dystopic bullshit, even in the tech sector. I remember a colleague a few years ago, told me he liked targeted ads because "it knew what I wanted"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Oh boy, those people frustrate me so much. The ones who have a verbal conversation about a topic they’ve never talked about before, like owning a cat, or taking a cruise to Alaska, and then giggle gleefully when they are inundated with cat litter and cruise ship ads wherever they go on the internet.

Some people just don’t care. And that’s actually fine. The ones who do care will try to look after the morons.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

There's a lot of people in the world who do, in fact, like to eat.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There are also a lot of people, already in the wealthiest upper percentiles, who would implement big brother just to be slightly wealthier.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"I was only following orders"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Problem is, if you refuse to do it, they’ll hire another developer who will.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Probably exploited labor, similar to those who have no choice but to work in scam call centers to survive.

Pretty unfortunate that things are like this IMO

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I don't think software developers working in AI are "exploited labour just doing it to survive"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Bro theres plenty of people who run scams in big offices all day every day

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What kind of amoral, selfish monster, would know full well that car emissions are exterminating life as we know it on earth, and still decide to drive a car?

The same kind of monster who develops this technology.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’m all down for using public transportation and electric cars when you pay to fix the infrastructure, have it run 24/7, or buy me an overpriced electric car that doesn’t destroy the earth as well with lithium mining and all the non-renewable resources used to manufacture it. Certainly better than gas.

Although I’d argue the car manufacturer is the one you should be angry with, not the buyer who is limited by availability, a limited public transit system, and price.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah, so there we go. You have a perfect set of excuses for your own actions and why they're someone else's fault, but you struggle to understand how someone could develop software like this. The answer is: the same way as you. Excuses.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

No.

Aren't you taking this all a bit personally? I'm just using your own experiences to explain a situation you find difficult to understand. The douchebags are the same as you. Hope that helps.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can you afford to finance $40,000?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, you're taking this way too personally. I'm out here explaining how people can justify doing bad things to themselves, and you're having a whole identity crisis over whether you're a bad person about it. Look, your personal difficulties excusing your own actions are none of my business.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’m not taking this personally at all. I think you’re reading my responses with the wrong tone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you're not taking this personally, why all the personal questions about my transit habits and finances? It seems like you're trying to use me as some kind of gotcha for why you don't have to introspect. Leave me out of it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

That’s how people have conversations? You seem really angry. Maybe go for a walk ;)

Have a good night.