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Hey now. Rule one of this community is "Be civil - Attack the argument, not the person." What does any of this genocide stuff have to do with the argument being discussed here?
The discussion here? Nothing. The person trying to have a discussion with me? Everything. Because yesterday, he said that I support genocide both due to the fact that I will do anything to keep Trump out of office to save my queer daughter's life and due the the fact that I exist. And now he wants to chat with me as if he never said that.
No one did anything about it in this community when he said those things. And, believe it or not, the topic of discussion was not genocide.
Why should I let someone who was that hateful towards me act like nothing was ever said a day later?
I'm with you on this 100% and not just because my own queer daughter's life is on the line.
If we are gonna play the 'be civil' card, play it on everyone. Certainly don't overlook people accusing others of genocide. You'd think that didn't need to be said but shrug
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Because it's against the sub's rules to attack him personally.
Why not block him? You'll never see him again.
He attacked me personally repeatedly and nothing was done. Why is he being held to a different standard?
Again- you said I supported genocide no matter who I voted for or whether I voted or not.
I specifically asked you who I should vote for or if I should even vote at all to not support genocide. You specifically told me that it didn't matter who I voted for or if I didn't vote.
You also don't give a shit about queer people since you don't think anything should be done to stop the coming queer genocide that will end up making my own daughter marched into a camp. Queer people can be killed off and you won't give a shit.
Now you're gaslighting. I clearly showed in that image that I asked you for another option. I asked you multiple times too. Stop gaslighting. Apart from the proof I already provided, here is more:
It is a fact that you told me that I support genocide no matter who I vote for or even if I don't vote. I proved it and you're still lying and gaslighting.
Apart from this and many things like it-
Also, see my paste above where I specifically said that I would vote for anyone who would prevent my daughter from being a part of a genocide. I asked you directly who that would be. You refused to answer and just kept telling me I supported genocide no matter what.
You have, multiple times, suggested that the queer genocide that Republicans have made no secret about wanting to implement is only "hypothetical" and thus I shouldn't put my daughter's safety first.
You do not care about queer people.
You also don't understand how parenting works or why putting something else before your child is fucking child abuse.
Or maybe you don't care about child abuse either.
Ah, so you agree.
Good.
I will make sure that when queer people or children are brought up in future and you get involved to note you don't care about queer people or child abuse. I'll also mention that you think that people can support genocide by existing and warn people that you are talking to that you believe they are guilty of supporting genocide because they exist.
Nice to know what to do from now on.
Nope. I'm telling you the things you lied about and how you don't care about queer people.
I'm not holding him to a different standard. I wasn't in whatever fight you and he might have had, I don't know what community it happened in.
You seem to be holding both him and yourself to a different standard since you just made a personal attack.
And it happened in this community. You could have asked which community.
Where did I make a personal attack? The comment where you explicitly asked for examples of you being anti-AI?
And you're slinging personal attacks against both of us, so if "holding people to different standards" is such a big deal, well...
I didn't ask because it didn't matter. I wasn't present, I have no idea what you guys were arguing about and I don't care. The point is that you suddenly brought that argument in here, where it's a complete non-sequitur and not relevant to the subject at hand. And you're certainly not being civil about it.
Bros a troll, just block, report, and move on.
Right here:
Because that is a false accusation intended to make me look bad. And you know it.
You literally asked for that. What a wonderful catch-22 you set up; if nobody responded with the evidence you demanded you could claim people were lying about you, and if they provided it you can claim they're launching personal attacks.
Rereading that previous thread, I see you were quick to accuse me of issuing personal attacks there too. Seems to be a common theme.
Anyway. Is there anything more to discuss here about the actual topic of this thread, the energy usage of ChatGPT?
I literally asked for you to lie in order to make me look bad by claiming I said people could burn a car if they were pissed off?
I'm pretty sure I didn't say either thing.
And yes I did accuse you of making personal attacks then. Because you were making them then and you're making them now.
MagicShel said:
And you responded:
So I demonstrated.
There's no need to screenshot one specific quote and present it with no context, I provided a link to the whole thread.
The only thing you demonstrated was that you lied. And you provided the link to prove it.
The first statement was, as I have demonstrated, a lie. The second statement was, as I said, dishonest, because it was a group decision, not a unilateral one, and had nothing to do with hating AI in general.
So no, you have not shown that to be in any way true. All you have shown is that you are a highly dishonest person who makes scurrilous accusations in order to harm someone's reputation.
Badly.
That's not the comment I was referring to. Here's a direct link, where you said:
Yep, still lying.
I didn't say-
I said:
But it is pretty amusing that you pasted a quote yourself that proves what you said was a lie. Maybe you should have cut off that second part to make the lie more convincing.
The car didn't drive into them. It stopped.
But re-arguing a week-old thread in a different unrelated thread is likely even less welcome. Anyone who's really interested can go read it.
What the car did is irrelevant. This is a lie:
I've shown that it is a lie. Even the text you pasted proved that it was a lie. The first part of the post above was just blatantly false, the second part was dishonest. That's a simple truth.
Sorry, you're not going to get me to forget about the fact that you lied by trying to change the subject.
Man, fuck this fence-sitting purity culture. Get that fence post out of your ass.
Which fence am I sitting on?
Both sides bad.
Well good thing for me I live in Canada and don't have to sit on the fence. I can say for sure that both sides are bad. How many billions of dollars has Biden sent to bomb more brown kids in Gaza?
If you think the decision on who to vote for in the 2024 US Presidential election is morally black and white, and that the genocide of Palestinians is by far the most important issue, then we lack a common basis for any worthwhile discussion.
Everything I have heard from you and others who bring up the same talking points suggests that is precisely the case.