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I don't disagree with you that the US is not a good guy on the world stage. However, the Israel-Palestine war is politically complex and tensions have been mounting for decades. Israel hold the cards for ending that, not the US.
The fact that US taxpayers are funding Israel is bad. But saying that compares to Russia actively invading Ukraine for 2+ years is just dishonest. Russia can stop whenever they want and Putin has stated he believes that land to be his right.
In this situation, Russia is more like Israel. Not the US.
Fair enough
It's not politically complex. One side have more UN condemnation than freaking North Korea.
So did Netanyahu.
Did you just gloss over the point?
Which wasn't that what Israel is in the right, or that the US is blameless.
It's that Russia is like Israel.
Yeah. That's sort of exactly what I said, thanks
Then we agree. Russia and Israel are bad and the west is bad for supporting the later while buying oil from the Saudi and their hamas-supporting muslims brotherhood..
Sure, then we also agree.
That comparing the US in this issue directly to Israel and Russia is dishonest, as Russia and Israel are direct aggressors with boots on the ground and the power to stop their respective wars.
This time. It doesn't allow you to make fascist meme about how the poorer side of the world is backward and uneducated (which is the subtext of the meme).
Honestly, it's not wrong to say that Russia considers most of the developed world unfriendly. Which is the actual text of this meme, however misinformed the tap water part might be.
Which implies that being "developed" (code for rich) makes you morally right. Which is not the case, as illustrated by the wonderful story of the Iraqi, afghan, Malian wars among other. Where are the sanction for those?
This is basically mocking the poors for the sake of jingoism.
All of that was derived by you.
"Developed" doesn't have to mean "morally right" for the statement "Russia considers most of the developed world unfriendly" to be true.
Yeah, we get it. You are pissing yourself to make sure everyone knows that the west is bad too. Pretty much anyone with a username remotely like yours hammers that on this platform constantly.
Sometimes a meme is just a meme, my friend.
Anyway, I'm not willing to continue this argument every night during the daylight hours of the country you're obviously in and simping for, so I'm going to go.
Very well said. I and many others have pointed out to both this person, and many others like them- the flaws in their argument. They just side-step it with more irrelevant rhetoric, and continue shitting all over the discussion.
At this point, I no longer believe that even they believe the nonsense. They’re clearly right-wing shills. It’s all there, the willful ignorance, the blatant disregard of factual evidence….
Is there any other way to describe a right-wing troll? I know people on the far-left. They’re not this obtuse.
Ah yes, I'm a russian shill. Long live putin and mao and pol pot or something /s
Seriously though, i'm just a guy. The governement of russia is ofc doing shitty thing. It just sucks to shit on people who have nothing to do with politics or whatever.