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What happened next that evening in May 2021 is the basis for a lawsuit by the mother alleging that Burlington police used excessive force and discriminated against her unarmed son, who is Black and has behavioral and intellectual disabilities.

After he failed to hand over the last of the stolen e-cigarettes, two officers physically forced him to do so, then Cathy Austrian’s son was handcuffed and pinned to the ground as he screamed and struggled, according to a civil lawsuit filed Tuesday and police body-camera video shared with The Associated Press by the American Civil Liberties Union of Vermont.

The teen eventually was injected with a ketamine, a sedative, then taken to a hospital, according to the lawsuit and video.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 7 months ago (3 children)

And then people wonder why as a neurodivergent person, I've passed over several obscenely lucrative contracts simple because they required me to go to the US for any extent of time.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Buddy, I'm not neurodivergent and I also straight up refuse to set foot in that place. I don't even feel particularly comfortable sharing a border with them at this point. Lots of the people are great, but the government and many of its institutions scare the hell out of me.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You live in a country with the fucking RCMP and yet have let the media convince you their institutions are scary.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not saying the RCMP (or local cops) are much better, and we have plenty of our own problems. These days those mainly stem from the import of MAGA-style "conservatism," and I'll admit that things have been getting noticeably worse around here.

That said, we don't have school shootings pretty much every week, insane amounts of gun violence, the overreach of homeland security (my biggest reason for not wanting to set foot down there - crossing the border), people having to mentally run a cost/benefit analysis if they need to go to the hospital, talk of civil war, half our political representatives being clinically insane (here it's a little less), people going to jail for weed (a small bit of good that's happened here during a period of general backslide), the alphabet agencies (the RCMP has historically done some heinous shit but it's child's play compared to the CIA), the fact that a rapist who actively says he wants to destroy democracy has a very good chance of becoming president again, etc, etc, etc.

So yeah, I'll happily stay in the country with the RCMP.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago

We literally have a rapist prime minister right now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Canadian cops are scary too, but it’s not even close. US cops are five times more likely to kill. And Canadian cops don’t have qualified immunity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

And yet when they run 14 year olds over with their cruiser in a school playground nothing happens.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I did a quick search for this but nothing came up. Do you have a link to an article?

Cars are the number one killer of children in Canada. We tolerate a disgusting amount of preventable traffic accidents in Canada, but comparing that to killing children by shooting them or putting them into deadly chokeholds is nonsensical.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, because there is no article. Happened to a friend of mine.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's also no articles about the 14 year old kid shot in the back by a RCMP officer in a local town no matter how much I google, but I know that happened too, so why don't you go ahead and google some obscure local things you know happened and see if there's any documentation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It can be a 100% true. With no evidence, it might as well be 100% false.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago

You can fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Same when they shoot 16 yr old girls in the the head because they stole some booze.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Naturally you should do what you're comfortable with. I will say that the most upsetting news stories from any place aren't representative of what it's like to live there. As a lifelong resident I don't know anyone personally who has been shot or shot at in the U.S, and don't know anyone who has been wrongfully arrested or assaulted by the police.

That's not to say it's not a problem that needs to be addressed, it is. Just if someone is turning down opportunities they would otherwise accept out of fear of this thing, I would say they may be overweighting the risk.

It reminds me how my mom would always text me when I lived in the city, "did you hear about this shooting? Are you ok?" But I wouldn't have even been aware there was an incident. There are a lot of people in the world. The absolute crime rate has overall been going down. But the ability for us to hear about horrible incidents has only increased.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I talked to a guy a while ago that genuinely would not believe I've never owned or handled a gun. Absolutely would not accept it and said I was lying lol. I think I briefly saw a hunting rifle in my uncle's closet as a kid but that's pretty common even outside the US. There are people out there that really think we're ALL armed to the teeth I guess