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Gen Z boys and men more likely than baby boomers to believe feminism harmful, says poll (www.theguardian.com)

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Boys and men from generation Z are more likely than older baby boomers to believe that feminism has done more harm than good, according to research that shows a “real risk of fractious division among this coming generation”.

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On feminism, 16% of gen Z males felt it had done more harm than good. Among over-60s the figure was 13%.

The figures emerged from Ipsos polling for King’s College London’s Policy Institute and the Global Institute for Women’s Leadership. The research also found that 37% of men aged 16 to 29 consider “toxic masculinity” an unhelpful phrase, roughly double the number of young women who don’t like it.

“This is a new and unusual generational pattern,” said Prof Bobby Duffy, director of the Policy Institute. “Normally, it tends to be the case that younger generations are consistently more comfortable with emerging social norms, as they grew up with these as a natural part of their lives.”

Link to study: https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/masculinity-and-womens-equality-study-finds-emerging-gender-divide-in-young-peoples-attitudes

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[+] [email protected] -11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can’t honestly believe this.

I don't have to believe it. I've got the data to prove it.

The mortality rate is awful but it does not sufficiently explain

When the mortality rate among women is twice that of men, the only way you get an equivalent number of homeless women is if the deficit is made up by women moving into the homeless population faster than men.

So which is it? Are men predominant because women die faster? Or are they not predominant because more women are becoming homeless?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don’t have to believe it. I’ve got the data to prove it.

Ok, this is hilarious! I actually dug into your data, but I didn't have to dig that deep to find you are COMPLETELY misreading it. Just read this from the FIRST PAGE:

Within the homeless population, people who are Black, FEMALE, and Hispanic have LOWER relative mortality risk than their white, male, and non-Hispanic counterparts.

So wait, your data which you used to dismiss the male homelessness issue by provocatively suggesting women were dying in the hundreds of thousands, actually shows the exact OPPOSITE?
I mean, I am not a statistician, I will be humble for a moment and accept the possibility that maybe I have misread something here, because this level of irony is hard for me to believe. I get things wrong sometimes! Where am I wrong? Point to me where in the data you can get away with saying that female homeless mortality is double. Make it make sense.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

This seems to happen every time an issue affecting boys and men is discussed. No matter what the data says, the welfare of men is dismissed hastily. It's like people think this is a zero sum game or something.