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[drunk theory question] do you all think revolutionary masculinity is an oxymoron? if not, what would it consist of (hexbear.net)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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was discussing this with a friend of mine (she's an anarchist but she actually organizes and shit). she was saying there can be no such thing as revolutionary masculinity because the two things are contradictory. but i'm a marxist so contradictions really butter my bread.

i think in a utopian, communist world gender identity would be completely different, to the point where it might not even be legible to us today, but my question is more about how we get from here to there. basically, can we men find a way to not be shitheads in such a way as to bring about communism, or does that not even make sense

feel free to dunk on me if this is a dumb question

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Anyone of any gender can be revolutionary, it's not really a gendered thing as I see it. Toxic masculinity and patriarchy are counter-revolutionary though, and if that's what masculinity looks like to you then yeah I can see how you'd think that. Everyone needs to be less of a shithead in order to bring about communism, although I think on average, men have more bullshit to unlearn.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Yeah, the non-reactionary elements of masculinity (just like the non-reactionary elements of feminity) are just aesthetics. That's easily reclaimed by communists, but it will take work to remove it from the brainworms of "masculinity".