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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm actually kind of skeptical of that number. Gaza isn't big enough to drop 16,000 bombs on.

Why are IDF engineers

They want a DMZ between Gaza and Israel. (and let's see how long before Israeli settlers move in.)

What is the purpose of their missile strikes on refugee convoys and ambulances?

Hamas wins when Israelis die. Hamas wins when Palestinians die. Ambulances and hospitals are the best places for Hamas to hide.

We should all know WHY Israel is doing what they're doing. Hell, we know why Hamas is doing what they're doing. That doesn't make it right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Gaza isn’t big enough to drop 16,000 bombs on.

what

I'm not sure you understand bombing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I haven't seen a number of bombs dropped by the IDF recently, but it was in the thousands last I heard probably in December. Israel also has much heavier munitions and is capable of high accuracy. Independent analysis show that by November 6th, the IDF had dropped at least 500 2,000 pound bombs, causing impact craters larger than 40 feet, in densely populated residential areas.

The heavy munitions, mostly manufactured by the US, can cause high casualty events and can have a lethal fragmentation radius – an area of exposure to injury or death around the target – of up to 365 meters (about 1,198 feet), or the equivalent of 58 soccer fields in area.

Israel dropped hundreds of 2,000-pound bombs on Gaza, analysis shows

Whether or not militants hide in hospitals or ambulances it is abhorrent to attack medical staff and is generally recognized as a war crime. There have been numerous deaths of independent observers, foreign medical staff. More UN aid workers have been killed by the IDF since October than in any other conflict in their history.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I'm not making excuses for anyone. People just have this tendency to exaggerate towards "their" side.

Taking either side in this thing like it's a sports team seems kind of obscene to me. We don't need to be making things up to try to "win" an online argument.

Regardless of how much damage Israel has done, I don't think they've dropped 16,000 bombs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Data from conflict-tracking group Airwars suggests that the US-led coalition against IS in Iraq carried out 15,000 strikes between 2014 and 2017; the Israeli military has carried out 22,000 in Gaza in less than three months.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/08/the-numbers-that-reveal-the-extent-of-the-destruction-in-gaza

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm curious about what constitutes a "strike", but I'm still impressed you found a reliable source.

I looked at the guardian's source, but they never define a "strike".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I searched "number of Israeli bombs dropped" on duckduckgo and that was one of the first that came up, there are other stats I've seen referenced before like bombs dropped or mortar strikes etc. ~~if you follow the original source cited by the Guardian it may be more specific, I haven't looked at that yet~~ whoops I see you say you looked at that already