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Very fitting headline in a day and age where I'm constantly seeing people advocating for giving trump the Whitehouse and finishing the country off because anything less would be SuPpOrTiNg GeNoCiDe. As if the move to help Palestinians would be to elect Trump. These people are very stupid children, bots, or Russian paid actors. Impossible to know which.
I got into that exact argument about Biden. Eventually I called the person a Putin puppet and got my post deleted by a Lemmy.world mod.
So, you got into an argument, turned to insults, and moderation kicked in. Sounds like everything is working OK.
You're exactly right, and you proved your own point with this comment thread. It's really sad that people can't be polite and think they have to resort to ad hominem crap.
Sounds overzealous to me. Wrapped up in that is the assumption that associating a person with Putin is said as just a way to hurt feelings, rather than a perhaps-assuming claim.. before yesterday, it never once occurred to me that a mod would have an issue with a claim of association that cannot be proven either way. Might as well start banning people for telling each other they're wrong.
So, if I were to hit you with a claim of association that cannot be proven either way, but just so happens to conveniently dismiss anything you said, and anything you might say in response, you wouldn't consider that a personal attack?
Fine by me: How much is Putin paying you to sow bad-faith arguments among non-republicans?
Annnnd I was banned from politics on lemmy.world. this is actually kind of messed up. I don't think I said anything particularly offensive even. It seems like it was more about my message.
I was banned from all of . world for shit posting in a running group by saying I'm too fat to run. The group crossed my feed when I was sorting by all and I said it just for shits and giggles.
That got me banned but when I went on the discord and asked about this another mod came along and reversed it.
A child often behaves like an LLM-based bot - a child too often will imitate proper argumentation in style, but say junk, because they want to "win" an argument and not be correct. I would do that when I was a child.
I mean, adults do that too all the time, so the only way to distinguish bots from people is to communicate with people you know are real or others know are real.
I love how the old way of using the Web would solve this problem automatically, and P2P solutions with webs of trust too, but the majority of people uses the architecture most advantageous to bots.
Almost as if you needed bots to attract the majority of people. They wouldn't come to the web otherwise, for just real people and real communities. It's like a hunter's whistle. Or like porn.
What about unpaid russian actors?
Biden is assisting a genocide though. Will I vote for him in 2024? Most likely. I still fucking hate him though.
Nobody said we had to like him to vote for him.
I know some people that certainly seem to think I have to like him to vote for him. They genuinely think I'm going to sit out an election that could have a wannabe dictator on the ballot.
You know who thinks we have to idolize a guy to let him run our country? Russians and bots made by Russians... it's literally all they've ever known. After that, people who fall for propaganda.
This guy is an irl friend of an irl friend. He gets absolutely mental if you post a quote or news article about something Biden did that unpopular. Recently, I posted about how I'm depressed about the next election and he went into a spiel about how it's our civic duty to vote and how Biden is the only thing keeping use from falling into a dictatorship. I mean, sure, but I'm still depressed that he's our best option. Honestly, the way he talks about Biden reminds me of Trump supporters. Ever hear someone call Biden "Uncle Joe" unironically?
Why am I unsurprised that its lemmy.world libs bringing the 'everyone I don't like is a russian bot' line to the fediverse.
Hey. It's only a problem if you're actually wrong.
lemmy despite trying not to be like reddit, it's still moderated by people that get off on the power trip exactly the same
They don't care that much.
vote biden because trump bad
what about their resumes? what have either candidates done that has benefited your life enough directly that demands your vote?
please name one thing biden has done that your life now is better for
was it the cannabis reforms he promised and flip flopped on with prosecutor harris? was it the police reforms he promised? was it defending our human rights? was it the immigration policies he talked up that now mirror republican strategies? or is that stagnant paycheck after biden promised a higher minimum wage of $15 which is still too low due to the inflation?
forgot he can not do anything because republicans and republicans never can do anything either because democrats
through policies and laws crafted and put in place by politicians like biden, trump, obama, and the list goes on my right to vote was taken so not like have a say in this election anyways
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/biden-promise-tracker/?ruling=true
Not that those links would be the metric to go by when voting, but they do not support your position as Biden's stats are much better there.
I will not waste any more time on you so don't bother replying
Yeah. I had to look at both twice to make sure and laughed a bit. Some people can site sources. But they can’t read em
Or just people with different opinions to yours
Anyone who sites “genocide” and then, in the same breath, supports Trump is either a shill, a fool, or both. There is no metric you can look at and say Trump is better,
To say the least