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[–] 221 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (41 children)

I know this comment could receive some negative feedback, but Lemmy lacks diversity in its userbase, compared to Reddit (or Tumblr in the old times). It's just a feeling, when I scroll through comments and posts on Lemmy, I picture most of the users as 16-46 yo white males.

EDIT: changed "45" to "46", see comment below.

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  • [–] 151 points 2 years ago (19 children)

    That’s the vibe I always got from Reddit. But yeah, the vibe I get from Lemmy is that there are two demographics.

    19-45 white male tech enthusiast and 19-45 white trans female tech enthusiast.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Which is interesting. On the early days of Digg it was the same demographic, although more politically center. Then in the early days of reddit the same thing happened. It was mostly Linux and tech. So having the same starting demo is not a bad thing, but the question is, will it grow to adopt others

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  • [–] 80 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    That's how Reddit was for a long time too, and Reddit still is more like that than the other social networks. For whatever reasons that demo is more likely to be early adopters of this kind of platform. Diversity comes with growth.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Because Reddit was made for nerds, until more recently it didn't try to attract the mass with shiny interfaces and promises of social recognition like FB and Instagram.

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  • [–] 53 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I get more of an impression that lemmy is full of far left leaning programmers. I think that is a good subset of people to have on a social media platform. But if we had more subs on other topics it should bring in other types of people.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (28 children)

    The reason you don't get many "normal" people here is that the community is absurdly hostile to anyone on the "normal person" spectrum.

    If you're not a software-pirating techbro obsessed with "privacy," a leftist, or a furry, this place generally shits on you.

    I very frequently post incredibly lukewarm takes for any mainstream community, and literally get called a Nazi. I have stalkers lol.

    I, personally, tend to have "normal" views but significantly more resilience to online communities than "normal" people - which is why I still come here. Most normal people left back before this place even defederated from Hexbear. They ain't coming back.

    Until mods of what are essentially "default" communities get serious about growth instead of wanting "their" spaces, Lemmy is never going to grow. Most people don't find getting blasted with piss-takes by Marxists funny the way I do.

    Case-in-point from this thread

    https://lemmy.world/comment/6400270

    Oh and one directed at me, right on schedule.

    Posted the bigot using the device created and coded by nerds. Do you fail to realize that “nerd” is what idiots call the smart kids? Of course you do.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    But if we had more subs on other topics it should bring in other types of people.

    Is that actually desirable or just growth for growths sake? Rage comics and lolcats brought huge numbers of new users to reddit and the quality of content immediately began to decay.

    Maybe a social media site that runs out of content is a good thing.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Is that actually desirable or just growth for growths sake?

    It's actually desirable. Without subs on more topics (which should also mean people discussing those topics), Lemmy is not a viable alternative for the people who want to focus on content. And this is particularly relevant for more niche subjects because of how the scale of conversation works. I should know. I created two communities (technically magazines on kbin, but same idea) but until people come to them, I'm mostly fully just waiting there, fingling fingers.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    This comment will also receive some negative feedback but I don't care about diversity in my social media platform. I actually want people to enjoy the same things I do, like Linux, technology, geek jokes, etc.

    That's the opposite of diversity I guess. More like a community where people have similar interests. That's what I like about it.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Eh, that is kinda the appeal of Reddit, and its alternatives. Finding smaller communities of likeminded individuals that you can group into a tailored feed.

    I always say the magic of this model is that it's not just a firehose of every possible interest, it's more like a shower of dozens of tiny handpicked jets. It just happens that on Lemmy, the "All" feed is still reasonably tailored to the main demographic here. That being tech nerds who dislike Reddit's recent decisions enough to make a change.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    Finding smaller communities of likeminded individuals that you can group into a tailored feed. the main demographic here. That being tech nerds who dislike Reddit's recent decisions enough to make a change.

    That's exactly why I simply cannot not go back to reddit from time to time. Lemmy is nice and all but all communities that are not focused on tech stuff are complete ghost towns. Sure, one could say, that I should create the content and post it here. But I'm simply not that kind of person. I seldom come up with interesting stuff to share, but enjoy interacting with the posts of other people, writing a comment here and there. And I'd say many if not most others are similar.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    there's no way you could even guess the skin color of a person by reading their comment. i could be a 70-year old asian man for all you care.

    maybe because "race" just isn't discussed as much because it's also basically a social construct besides minor evolutionary differences.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago

    Yeah there is not nearly as much to be learned here which is the major appeal of reddit to me. I already know what the comments will say before I open a lemmy post

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I don't feel like we're ever going to get past that until we can make the sign up process very nearly effortless. Reading about signing up for an account on the fediverse can be a lot of new info. Choosing an instance can feel like a lot when new to the fediverse and at the point that it becomes something difficult or confusing, a lot of people just lose interest.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I agree. I am a techie, have been following Lemmy for quite a while before the Reddit exodus. When I made my account, first I had to understand that each instance manages its own accounts and there are many instances. My initial thought was to look for one of the higher population instances, but I read that this was not necessarily the best idea. Then I searched out why its better to pick an instance outside the high population ones and that whatever instance I picked, I could view/comment/vote on posts from other instances. I don't have a problem doing research, but I don't know anyone who is not a techie that would continue past my first question, and that is a serious problem for adoption.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    I agree completely.

    I don't have examples at hand now, but I feel like I see so much like minorly-sexist talk. Or at least the stuff I only imagined horny men write, in so many threads.

    Reddit was the same like ~10 years ago and I don't miss that part of it.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    It definitely lacks diversity. But at the same time it reminds me of the early internet where we had dedicated forums like IGN. Most people weren't on these forums nor cared to be there. The problem here is sometimes Lemmy is not welcoming because of the way it is designed. You have to host and run your own instance or join someone else's instance. That is good because we, the users of Lemmy, own it but bad because we become very protectionists. We want to protect our instance from bad actors but some users take it to the extreme and protect the instance from people who aren't like them and think differently.

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