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Conservatives move to keep abortion off the 2024 ballot
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i don't understand why they care so much about this
It is a (dying) polarizing issue in order to try to maximize as many of the Christian demographic votes as much as possible. After this it is just the LGBQT+ issues and that'll probably be a dead issue in a decade. It isn't their only demographic or their only hot issues but right now the numbers are pretty split. If they lose more of the Christian demographic the numbers will probably start earning them a disadvantage.
You'll know they're very scared when they start pushing to increase voter age because younger voters don't have enough life experience to make wise decisions or some other trash. To have any chance of success they'll have to somehow get moderates behind them with something unpopular with youth, so maybe like a war with Iran (I'm not saying it would be unpopular with young voters but they may not want yet another generation off to war) or something.
They've already been trying to bring "raise the voting age" into discussions.
Republicans LOVE the Constitution!
Except for the ones about Voting Age, Religion, Search and Seizure. . .
Rule and control.
It ain't the bible. Abortion is OK in the bible.
As one who used to share their beliefs, let me explain. Putting aside the folks who cynically use the issue for political purposes, the grassroots pro-lifers simply believe the fetus is a human being (what else would it be?) and thus it has human rights. The mother also has rights. So what do you do if two people's rights collide? You look at the harm inflicted. For the one, it means expense, inconvenience, discomfort, and sometimes life-threatening danger. For the other, it means death.
Pro-lifers do not all draw the line at the timing or circumstances they believe acceptable to allow abortion. But all believe there need to be limits. All believe it's a human rights issue, that an abortion kills an innocent human being.
To them, this issue is our generation's Holocaust. That is why they can't just sit by and let it happen without a fight.
They miss one important aspect. No matter the relative harm inflicted, no human being has a right to demand the use of another human being's body.
You can't even force marrow or blood donation, let alone kidney or liver. Even after someone is dead, no one has a right to their body without consent. Yet, women are being forced to donate their bodies to someone else?
There is no legal right to that.
I agree with you. Yours is the best argument to counter the pro-life folks. If my brother needs a kidney to survive and I am the only matching donor, I still have the right to refuse and nobody is allowed strap me down and take my kidney by force, even though my refusal is a death sentence for my brother.
The only difference I see is kind of a "trolley problem." In the case of abortion, you're not simply refusing to help and letting nature take its course. Instead you're actively killing a human being in order to free the mother from having to sustain it for a short time.
Any way you look at it, though, the best thing to do is to prevent unwanted pregnancy in the first place. But when you look at most pro-lifer's beliefs, you find that they are opposed to birth control, sex education, as well as social services to aid needy children and mothers with prenatal care, food, housing, health care, jobs, childcare, etc. At that point, their hypocrisy is blindingly apparent. It's not really about saving life, it's about punishing women for the sin of enjoying sex.
And in order to punish the "sinners," they are willing to sacrifice the lives and health of women who find themselves in the horrible position of needing to terminate a planned or wanted pregnancy for legitimate medical reasons.
I have actually given birth.
Then I'm stunned that you don't realize the risks.