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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Just a year after this happened and it seems like everybody has forgotten about it. Yea he lost his adidas partnership but nowadays, he's been a welcomed surprise guest at Travis shows, I'm hearing his songs being popped off on in clubs and parties, and he's been going viral on TikTok with tons of praise and no criticism or mention of him being a Nazi in the comments

Is it Americans having the memory of a goldfish? Americans not really hating Hitler/Nazis/anti-semitism that much? Kanye's music is just too good to ignore? Americans just loving to deepthroat and worship anybody that's famous?

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Rich person + mania = crazy fascist shit. Cancelling Kanye without also cancelling every rich person would be ableist.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

i'm also bipolar
i have never praised fucking hitler while manic

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago

Kanye had a lot of antisemitic episodes before the AJ interview.

In the song "Flashing Lights" he says he hates the paparazzi more than the nazis. Which many saw as comedic exaggeration for the sake of an easy rhyme way back when it came out, but in hindsight it's a big red flag about how he sees the media (including the celeb-stalking media) as Jewish-owned, and how he hates the (Jewish) media more than the killers of Jews.

In his album Life of Pablo he praises homophobic and antisemitic NOI leader Louis Farrakhan on a couple of occasions.

He also has this antisemitic lyric from the song Saint Pablo off of Life of Pablo:

Brother Don Muhammad told the minister about the presentation

He sat back and smiled

Black on black lies is worse than black on black crime

The Jews share their truth on how to make a dime

These were all invisible to people for some reason. It took him going on Alex Jones and praising Hitler before people noticed.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Of course a normal person praising Nazism should get punched in the throat, and having bipolar has nothing to do with political views.

A rich person praising Nazism is to be expected. Accumulating wealth as a vassal of empire is inherently fascistic. The act of holding wealth is violent. Taylor Swift is a fascist too, she's just neurotypical enough to not discuss it in interviews. Anyone surprised to find out Kanye was a Nazi just hasn't been paying attention.

So everyone in this thread trying to say Kanye is somehow different than other rich artists are focusing on vibes instead of reality, and discriminating against Kanye for being unable to control the impressions he gives off.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Discrimination against Nazis is a good thing

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Of course, but is this thread discriminating against all Nazis for being stupid and violent, or one Nazi for being bipolar?

[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

Not liking Kanye for being a Nazi isn't ableist

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago
[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

It's not a bit. You should hate Kanye for starving children to death. Every wealthy person is a mass murderer. I don't care about some shit he said while he was manic, he's a baby murderer. Hate him for the real life acts of evil, not the mania posting.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

Let me know when he comes down from his, I guess, year-long manic episode and apologizes with some comprehension of the gravity of doing Holocaust denial and being trotted around by that neonazi fuck.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I am, in no way, defending Kanye. The premise of the OP post is that we discovered something about Kanye we didn't previously know when he went all mask off, and the OP is wondering why that didn't result in him getting cancelled. I'm saying Kanye has been a mass murderer for multiple decades, so anyone conscientious was already not a Kanye fan, so the premise of the OP post was ridiculous. The only reason it was about Kanye and not "When will Swift get cancelled for failing to use her immense wealth to mitigate child hunger" is because Kanye has bipolar disorder.

Kanye apologizing while holding onto his wealth would obviously be an entirely empty gesture. Until we illegal-to-say, round them all up, then illegal-to-say, y'all just have to accept 90% of pop culture is made by fascists.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

So would you say you differentiate between someone who earned vast amounts of wealth through their labor vs someone who earned their wealth through the extraction of surplus of the labor of others

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Why would I? Choosing to let children starve is murder. Simple as.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Would you differentiate between a socialist system and a capitalist system?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

If he doesn't respond please lmk where you were planning on taking that train of questioning. I'm curious.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If existing with enough money to afford appetizers or desert and entrées without worrying about the cost every time you eat out means you're a baby-killing murderer because you don't live like Diogenes. Basically the "you live in a society yet you criticize it" bit very-intelligent

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

You don't need to give to charity to the point you're living in poverty, but if you can significantly improve someone else's life without meaningful impact to your own there is a duty to do so.

The ultra rich are in the unique position that they can order the creation of systems to directly mitigate the worst excesses of capitalism. The failure to do so is what makes them mass murderers. The logic doesn't apply to the proletariat, and under socialism I would hope no individual has that power.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Every wealthy person is a mass murderer

So every single popular musician, actor, artist, author, athlete, etc. is a mass murderer, right lol

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

If you have millions of dollars like T Swift and Kanye and you dont do good things with it youre a murderer, I agree with this. You dont get a capitalist pass just because you sing a song

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Literally yes. You need to reach a level of wealth where you could build systems to address poverty. Not super common with artists, but Kanye and Beyonce and Taylor Swift etc have all reached it.

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