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I never understood the "hating chapo" thing. I didn't come here through the sub, so IDGI
There's the dirtbag left that sees liberal civility politics as a way of constraining the Overton window, but in a broad sense of quashing universal justice or even discussing who/what that applies to. Chapo's wrapped in layers of irony/absurdism/bullying but it's ultimately a humanist and biocentric kind of socialism that's building more bridges between similar struggles.
There's the dirtbag left that wants economic redistribution but also has South Park brain and refuses to challenge any of their reactionary beliefs. The civility they're attacking is any kind of sincerity and intersectionality or threat to their own privilege. They're teenagers who grew larger more than they are any kind of identifiable socialist tendency, short of Nazbol.
This is a really good explanation. The dirtbag leftism that Chapo Trap House and its followers helped propel from 2016 onwards is very different from the stupidpol movement that branched off from it, as you say. The chapo boys (and girl) make fun of civility politics as a small but important part of a greater project to reduce the legitimacy of the ghouls in power and get the left in power electorally, whether we think this will work or not. The stupidpol movement sees the destruction of civility politics as the whole point of leftism with no real project beyond that (beyond occasionally saying idiotic shit like "iF wE dIdN't HaVe GeNdEr PoLiTiCs We MiGhT haVe HeAlThCaRe RiGhT nOw").
Eh CTH itself has flirted with blaming the problems of the left on those pesky Ess Jay Dubyas and their intersectionality. They're closer to their fellow brooklyn do-nothing political infotainers than they are to what was the subreddit.
Which is why they hated the sub, and why we'd always joke that :citations-needed: was the sub's official podcast.