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Transgender rights are under attack. But trans people 'just want to thrive and survive.'
(www.usatoday.com)
this post was submitted on 14 Nov 2023
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Social acceptance is clearly a factor -- which is why I said that this is also a social issue.
I have yet to find (and I have tried because my close family has a transgender individual) an impartial and comprehensive study on the effects on puberty blockers. I have found plenty of studies separately confirming both sides of the issue. Puberty blockers seem to be at the same time absolutely harmless and the most destructive thing you can give a teenager. I'd be happy to look at such studies.
Sorry, I don't get this. Why cannot it be an issue with the brain? We know for certain that the brain does wonky stuff a lot. Why couldn't this be one of them? Some people get gender dysphoria at a later age, does that mean that their body was correct until that point in time?
Except you can if we consider the possibility that it's created also by psychological or social circumstances. Increased numbers during Covid lockdowns suggest this. If we don't face another pandemic, the statistics should soon enough show us if it actually had any effect -- if the trend continues like this then it obviously didn't have an effect.
I also haven't seen statistical studies about this, and it's probably too early also to study it properly.
have you considered that maybe covid just gave people some much needed time to sit back, relax, and recognize things about themselves?
this isn't rocket science. i get the shtick of the "enlightened" centrist but when one side just wants to exist and the other side wants a trans genocide the right answer isn't maybe a little genocide, as a treat. and if you don't know how to tell apart conflicting data about trans people, you'd do well to actually listen to them for once, as opposed to discrediting them as biased and "just one side".
This is an unfair response. I absolutely disagree with the other poster, but implicitly accusing them of supporting a little genocide, rather than just having a disagreeable opinion, is just so fucking bizarre and uncalled for.
genocide doesn't just mean murder, it means destruction of a people, which can be done by destroying identities even without killing the people behind those identities. i don't think it's inaccurate.
said other poster is actively advocating for a form of conversion therapy, just on little kids instead of adults, while questioning whether trans people are even real or just a delusion. if you hang around literally any oppressed group you'll see this "well-educated genuine concern" and conditional support rhetoric all the time. it's veiled bigotry, nothing more.
They might be a bigot, I don't really know. But nothing they said is so offensive that I could possibly interpret it as suggesting any level of genocide.
It just strikes me as trying to demonize a person to make it easier to reject their position without giving it much thought. Why consider anything coming from the mouth of s genocidal maniac?
Yeah, sorry, definite nope to this. We have plenty of data about this, and the data clearly shows dramatically increased mental issues in pretty much all groups of young adults caused by the lockdowns. Whether these issues have anything to do with transgenderism is of course not shown by that data. Mental issues correlate strongly with transgenderism though, but you can legitimately claim that that's at least partly due to social anxiety.
Do you honestly think based on this discussion that I want trans genocide even a little bit? That I want the person in my close family to die?