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“All this antisemitism is very frightening,” she continued. “I know the baristas here and it’s just very upsetting that all these young people are – I don’t know what they are, ignorant? Hateful? Brainwashed? It’s very scary this is what’s happening in this country, but I hope somebody knows how to fix it because it’s really scary.”

Quitting your job is now antisemitism.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They think we’re supporting genocide, we’re supporting colonialism. They know the keywords but they don’t really know what they mean.

A shame that you didn't take this opportunity to describe what genocide and colonialism are. It would have provided important context for me, a young person who apparently doesn't know what it means.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I love this bullshit. The youth never know what's happening. It's all too complex for them. They'll understand that they were wrong when they are older. It's very nuanced. blah blah blah blah. It's utter bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I'm 41, still patiently waiting to finally ✨Grow Up✨ and ✨Understand✨

edit: also, I am a parent of a teen - really thought that I'd finally understand by now all the ~~stuff~~ bullshit I was told I would believe as an adult, back when I was a teenager with these same moral qualms about society. Maybe I'm just a slow learner?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The older I get the more leftist I get.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Me at 25 "Pacifism is the only legitimate form of activism"

Me now "Stalin was soft."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Even fucking capitalists don’t see that as they keep hoarding the wealth, they’ll just keep creating more left-curious people (probably the only way to build collation). But they’re probably relying heavily on the fact that the average American can’t even read at a 5th grade level or the fact that poor people have a lower life expectancy

Fuck if I know honestly it’s hell at the end of the day

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

same

my brother in laws uncle once told me he was just like me when he was younger but he grew up and some day i will too

I'm now about 10 years away from the age he was when he told me that and I'm going much much harder left than i ever did back then with no sign of that ever changing

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

That's really the appeal of conservatism that draws these people in. Its the 'responsible' choice. They get how household finances work. You can't just spend. Can't be some kind of tax and spend liberal.

Its a false conscience.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

37 here, and been working trades my whole life. Never had more than a week off of work since I was 17. Still a commie. When is this elderly boomer wisdom going to bless me?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

When is this elderly boomer wisdom going to bless me?

Wealth; its corrupting influence is what usually does the trick. That and having a circle of friendly chuds.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

you've made a lot of boomers very happy, or at least wealthy

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

It's this condescending, paternalistic attitude that I think is losing the progressives the younger demographic in regards to votes.

The conservatives treat young voters as cool and powerful and important and savvy.

The progressives treat young voters as idealistic and misguided and impetuous and as supplicants. (Feinstein, may she rot in piss, displays this attitude perfectly here when talking to young people about climate change.)

Yet, for some unknown reason, progressives can't seem to understand how you have these model apostate ex-progressive young people who talk about how "the left" is all groupthink and enforced conformity and how you'll get cast out for saying the wrong thing so that's why they switched to being a conservative.

Gee, I wonder why young adults are abandoning your movement when you treat them like naughty children who need to be disciplined whenever they overstep their "boundaries" or they express the wrong opinion instead of treating them as equals and as fully-fledged adults with all the respect that entails?

Let's talk about it laterrrr

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This just isn't true? Young people overwhelmingly support the dems.

The "model apostate ex-progressive young people" are all just grifters like Candace Owens. Also I don't know anyone who'd call the dem establishment "progressive". That label really only applies to Bernie, "the squad", and a handful of others like Fetterman.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Imma be honest that’s almost as depressing as young people supporting republicans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

To be fair I should have said "young people who vote", because turnout was still only 55% in 2020 and sub-30% in the 2022 midterms.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Do you think conservatives are winning over young adults? Because they definitely aren't, zoomers aren't becoming more right-wing by any means. A lot of young people are obviously becoming disillusioned with the liberal status quo and abandoning Dems, but the majority of those become leftist types.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Did you accidentally switch around conservative and progressive consistently in this post? It looks like a mega brain fart

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"You'll become more conservative as you get older" is the biggest bullshit. The large majority of gen x and boomers are lifelong conservatives if you applied today's standards. You were progressive in the 80's if you thought gay people dying of AIDs was maybe sort of a bad thing. Most people's core values either stay consistent or evolve more progressive over time

Even if you look at voteing patterns, major differences between party preference and age didn't really become a rule until more recently; 18-24 year old boomers reelected Reagan harder than most generations (at over 60%), and 18-24 year younger gen xers in 2000 were 50/50 split in a 50/50 split election

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

They think we’re supporting genocide, we’re supporting colonialism. They know the keywords but they don’t really know what they mean.

They're not the Adults In The Room that Make The Hard Decisions and Get Shit Done, therefore they must be ignorant of the cold hard morally grey logical factual reality as seen in the Prestige TV treats. morshupls