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I listened to Breakthrough News piece and they claimed that most of the names on that 1.400 killed Israelis list, are military. That the claims of beheaded babies or rapes were never backed by any evidence.
However, libs are yelling at me Hamas literally taped themselves killing and raping civilians.
Any resources or debunks available online? Are these tapes fabrication? I know at least the “beheaded babies” story was complete BS. Thanks.
You can’t prove the absence of something. The burden of proof should be on them. Make them show you these tapes if they’re so real. They won’t be able to, because they don’t exist.
I think this is their main propaganda tactic. In order to justify their ongoing genocide of Gaza they need to reframe the situation so that "their side" is the victim. The more barbaric the atrocity they fabricate, the more uncomfortable it is to question the veracity of.
I saw a Zionist the other day on Twitter talking about how a Hamas fighter filmed themselves raping and torturing Shani Louk, then circulated the footage of themselves committing the rape on the internet. She claimed to someone else that she personally saw the video, that Shani Louk's mom also had to see the footage of her daughter being raped, and then offered to send the video if they doubted that Hamas commit rape so much.
I did a Google search to see if I could find any reports talking about this but I couldn't find anything. However, there was an article saying that she's now believed to have died on Oct 7 due to a fragment of her skull being identified. Supposedly the injury was severe enough meaning that her death was almost certain, and that Hamas lied about her being taken to a hospital. The mom was quoted as saying "At least she didn't suffer" in this article.
I asked this random Zionist person if they could provide a link to a reliable source confirming this footage exists because obviously, I don't want to watch footage of a rape. They didn't respond.
The hostages are also being politicised in a similar way. I think it's clear by now that the Israeli government doesn't care about the hostages, and that it isn't what this bombing campaign is about. The Zionists are propagandizing by flyposting "KIDNAPPED" posters with the hostage's photos on them in North American and European countries. The posters obviously won't do anything to secure the release of the hostages, it is only about manufacturing consent for the bombing. Yet if you remove these posters you will get attacked.
Zionists casually admitting to having rape films on their phones to use as propaganda. What a lovely day to be alive.
Hold on...they never even showed these alleged tapes to anyone? Even censored or something? It was just a claim like "beheaded babies"?
Yeah, as far as I know. Zionists just make shit up.
I just found out they held a press conference where they showed some videos to the press. However they also presented those fake AI generated dead babies at the same event, so…
Fake videos aren’t hard to make. “Evidence” or not Isntreal is lying. They fabricated a call showing Hamas admitting to bombing the hospital.
We don't know what videos they showed to the press, and the only press they allowed in was sympathetic to the Zionist cause to begin with. Without the opportunity for independent verification and careful analysis of the supposed "evidence" there is no reason to believe that they are not lying. It's not as if this would be the first time that western media helped them to disseminate propaganda.
Why is it that when the Zionist entity claims they have evidence we are supposed to just believe them, but when Hamas and the resistance tell us that they did not target or abuse civilians we aren't even supposed to entertain the thought that they might be telling the truth?
Why do we have to always go through the same dance over and over again? The Zionists tell blatant lies, the western media amplifies the lies, some days or weeks or months go by, we find out that they were lying all along but the narrative has already been established so nobody pays attention anymore, they fabricate the next lie and we start the whole cycle all over again.
How many times do we have to be burned before we adopt the default stance that everything they say is a lie (unless it is them dropping the mask and admitting to their own crimes and to their intent to commit even more crimes)?
the rape thing is made up. the worst warcrime I have seen (and I save everything) was the civilians killed on the road and entrances to sderot. the famous killing on the bus stop, and also many cars of rave goers and people escaping being shot up on roadblocks.
theres a TG channel with all the footage of civilians killed available. southfirstresponders.
some violence against civvies did occur, most of it was known on day 2
True for easy to refute lies. What about attack on rave party?. The mainstream fact check article with lots of sources is there. I'm looking for alternative one that this community can agree with
I’m temped to spam quotes, instead i will paraphrase things. It takes way longer to debunk lies than spread them. [I wish the dessalines FAQ had way more topics.] That’s why some people are not worth our time, but still we must always be educating. I guess prolewiki can help for some things and Lemmygrad for more recent stuff. It still takes a lot of time.
May I have the link to the Breakthrough News piece you listened to? I've been looking for it all day.
Of course. https://youtu.be/mF7qndyvmEE?si=HonFVImEZRp2mkXt
thank you, comrade.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
they should show links to that evidence, I can easily find dozens of warcrimes by IDF on my folder, I can barely find a handful of hamas warcrimes.
It doesnt surprise me that most killed would be military, the military bases were the target, along with police and armed colonists.
few civilians were purposefully killed, and many were killed by IDF raids killing hostages