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Saw a TikTok about some woman asking why men have to disturb the peace of a Saturday or Sunday morning by mowing their lawn or using a leaf blower, and you would’ve thought she went on a bigoted rant by the comment section. Like damn she was just talking about how it would be nice to enjoy a peaceful morning and random commenters took it as a personal attack. Shit you not I truly believe some suburbanites would go to war over their lawn the way they treat it like a fortress to a castle.

Is this not extremely silly when you type it all out? Time is a circle and I feel like I’m a peasant under feudalism watching kings, nobles and knights protect their land like it’s under some type of threat

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m all for hating boomers and their lawns, but tbh her argument sounds like those boomers complaining about kids playing outside or “my ethnic neighbors are playing loud music.”

There’s respect, but there’s also the recognition you live around other people and they’re allowed to live their lives too. A lawnmower is an extremely common sound in the suburban auditory landscape, it’s not like he’s shooting off guns at 6am.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

just because something is common for a suburb doesn't make it acceptable. suburbs are horrible. you can commonly find monstrously sized trucks in suburbs, it doesn't mean that those vehicles aren't still horrible for the environment and people. extremely loud, unnecessary sounds like leaf blowers can lead to worse health.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’m not arguing for suburban living, but if we’re gonna get upset about sound, then all cities are gonna have to go.

Lawns are bad, but why are we singling out lawns. Entire tracts built around single family detached housing are bad, cars are bad, American “towns” with no downtown are bad, there’s so much that’s horrible about suburbs that focusing on your neighbor mowing their lawn in the morning is missing the forest for the trees. At one point you have to accept that this is where you live, no matter how hostile to human life it is, and focusing your energy on your neighbor mowing their lawn in the morning is just an extremely useless squabble over what the op seems to characterize as a pretty minor annoyance for this woman. The original tiktok doesn’t even seem to be part of a larger conversation on lawns, which even if it was I’d say the same thing - getting bogged down in some useless squabble about what time your neighbor mows their lawn when it seems, at this point, to be a minor annoyance, will just be a detriment to both your lives while tens of hundreds of thousands of boomers across the country continue to mow their lawns every Sunday.

As far as I can tell the tiktok is not even about lawns but about what time the lawn is mowed. So we’re focused on whether or not you should mow your lawn in the morning or not when your living in the suburbs, your entire lifestyle resting upon a mountain of human suffering that makes such a life in the imperial core possible. She doesn’t even seem mad that he’s mowing the lawn, it’s just a minor annoyance he doing at a time when she wants perfect quiet. Who cares.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Right, and a single lawnmower which you are not operating but hearing from who knows how many houses over is not anywhere near the level of noise you get in an average modern day city. The birds by my window are usually just as loud as a single lawnmower operating down the street.

Which gets back to my original point, which is we are so daily assaulted with massive amounts of noise, in most cases much more than a lawnmower I’d argue even a single house over, and there is so much wrong and hostile to life about the suburbs that this extreme focus on what time your neighbor is mowing their lawn is a useless conversation. You already live in the suburbs, your life already rests atop a mountain of human suffering, suburbanization has already taken over this country’s landscape, who cares what time your neighbor is mowing their lawn as if somehow getting some quiet on a Saturday morning is gonna alleviate those three things I listed.

Not to mention the point I made a bit more succinctly in a different comment - this tiktok, based on op’s description, is not about lawns, not about the suburbs, nor is it really about noise pollution. A lot of hexbears using it as a jumping off point to voice their own valid grievances, all of which I agree with, but when you get down to it this seems to be two reactionary people - one lawn boomer and one lady who doesn’t want to be reminded other people live around her - neither of whom has any issue with the suburban lifestyle, in conflict about what time the lawn should be mowed. Not about noise in general, not about lawns, not about the suburban lifestyle, but whether a lawn should be mowed in the morning or not (whatever she means by “morning”). Therefore I classify this as a minor annoyance and come down on the side of accepting that you live around other people and sometimes you have to deal with them living, which unfortunately in the suburbs in 2023 that means they’re gonna mow their lawn.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

suburbs are horrible.

agreed, but then all the lawn mower sounds only annoy other suburbians, so why care

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But also a lawnmower is an unnecessary sound. The world would be a better place with we just covered every lawn with gravel.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gravel, native plants that don't need mowing and contribute to a local ecosystem, or pretty much anything that isn't a lawn would probably be better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The original tiktok does not seem to be about lawns but about what time someone mows their lawn - this boomer mowing their lawn in the morning causing what seems to be a pretty minor annoyance for this woman. Who cares. You live around other people, sometimes you have to deal with them living. We can talk about lawns and I’d agree with you, but my understanding is that this is not about lawns, this woman has no issue with the suburban lifestyle, she just wishes suburban life would conform to her expectations of what it should be which, sorry, it doesn’t.