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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


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English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
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English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

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https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

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https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1985/09/09/anc-chief-says-violence-against-whites-to-grow/731407e0-8b13-4ee2-89df-e23ba979b187/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1985/09/06/s-african-violence-hits-white-areas/9c1867cd-8b20-4d69-a86f-a9409f95a415/

Very interesting articles to contrast the attitudes in the media towards South Africa in 1985 and Palestine now. And what O.R Tambo was saying. Well worth reading.

Tambo said that the ANC will not criticize or try to restrain the kind of violence that occurred last week in the Cape Town area, in which nonwhites attacked the homes of white civilians. "We wouldn't be in a hurry to condemn people who have suffered something like 600 to 700 dead shot down by police at the insistence of a government elected by whites. We couldn't," Tambo said.

In Washington, the State Department said South African police have used "excessive force" to maintain order and also criticized the recent call by the African National Congress for greater violence as "irresponsible."

The more things change, the more they stay the same...

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The meta has already been established. Unless something is introduced that significantly changes the meta, it will always repeat.

I hate to talk in gamer terms but it's a very blunt and practical way to discuss strategy.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's just extremely weird seeing all the exact same propaganda recycled. If you talk to most liberal westerners today, especially the younger generations, they'd probably agree the talking points used to support apartheid in South Africa in the 70s and 80s are illogical and nonsensical. Yet when the exact same talking points are used to support apartheid in Israel today, the liberals agree with them. Just shows how much real world impact and consequences affect people's outlook. The propaganda machine working in real time is a sight to behold, in a bad way. Honestly feels like westerners have been successfully MK-ULTRAed or something.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I mean you're in high school history class laughing with your friends at this obviously ridiculous propaganda and wondering how could anyone ever believe this nonsense, then a decade later the same propaganda appears and it turns out that yes, people do actually fall for it...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

need analyses on respective parties' APM and micro