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How many civilians died during the American revolution?
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Their responses will probably be something along the lines of "that was hundreds of years ago." Half American liberals are very quick to defend the founding fathers owning slaves because "it was a different time." The other half will still give you some "it was wrong of them to kill civilians but morality's evolved since then" type shit
You can probably throw something in about the Revolutionary War and the Civil War but I think it might help more to mention more recent examples (e.g. South Africa, Ireland, Haiti, or even India)
You're right of course but I've always hated that. Sure I ate your lunch but that doesn't mean you can have some of my dinner, we've moved past that now.
The other examples you've cited are more applicable and I've tried, at least with Ireland, most of the people I talk to find it easier to emphasize with people they consider white. I've also tried to explain the bombs "civilized" countries drop are pretty goddamn impartial and brutal with who they kill as well but it hasn't really got me anywhere. Thanks for the further examples though