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Spam them articles of us supplying tanks to . Rub their noses in it. All projection. We're not the ones supplying tanks.
They'll counter with "what do you want us to do let Russia take the territories"?
At this point ask them about bombing their own people after the 2014 Maidan coup...I mean "revolution" going on a decade now. If you say the word "coup" they will instantly shut down as they've been INNOCULATED to deflect any variation of Certainly Not News as "Russian/Chinese propaganda".
Ok Russia pulls out and Ukraine gets their backwards country song. What do they think will happen to the people if they are returned to Ukraine? Do they think Ukraine will leave them alone? Let them speak Russian? Allow them their political parties back? Amnesty? What will happen to the economy there now that Ukraine is indebted to kingdom come? What will be of the schools? The churches Ukraine has banned?
Bet you they haven't even thought that out yet because they haven't been told what to think.
The establishment would love to draw it out into Afghanistan 2.0. We don't fight to win. We fight to draw it out, and thus the military’s budget as high and long as possible, damned what goes on domestically. Juat give the cops more military shit and treat your citizens like combatants.
Do they even acknowledge the bombing since 2014? The lead up? Our elected officials directly provoking arms intervention to use Ukraine as a proxy? Here's Lindsay Graham and John McCain in 2016 saying it.
Yeah when it comes to Ukraine in particular I like to talk about how the war started in 2014 and Russia was so patient to wait until 2021 to try and put and end to the war happening on their border.
And don’t say it as if it’s new info that contradicts theirs, you say it as if of course they already know the war’s been going since 2014. It makes their heads explode.