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The tax-free annuity payment version is by far the better deal. But some people elect to get the lump sum in cash, and you end up getting far less than half of it, esp after taxes.
The annuity isn't tax free. You pay taxes on that income every year just like (and in addition to) any other income you have.
Also, you could most likely beat the rate of return on those investments if you know what you're doing. But on the other hand most lottery winners won't know what they're doing. Additionally the annuity can be a stopgap to keep you from losing everything all at once.
Even if you know what you're doing, you'll probably go bankrupt after winning. Annuity is, as you said, a stopgap against stupidity.
The taxes a far far less, though, and the total sum is far greater.
As for the rest, that’s all speculation. None of that is guaranteed. That annuity is guaranteed.
The taxes are far less on a yearly basis, but over the course of the annuity you'll actually pay a lot more in taxes. Rough calculation, if I won this jackpot it would break down to:
Lump sum: Immediate payment of $478.2M with a tax bill of around $210M for my state and Federal income taxes. Net payout of $267.8M.
Annuity: $1.04B paid over 30 years. At current tax rates that's a bill of $456.5M over that 30 years. Net payout of around $583.5M. If tax rates change during the term of the annuity those could rise or fall a bit.
Not like I'll ever have to worry about the problem,but I think I would take the annuity because I've never had to manage a large amount of money, and it more gently eases you into it while giving some buffer to assure you don't somehow blow through everything quickly.
This has never been true. If u take the annuity they take the lump and invest that and instead of getting the full profits of that investment you get the same flat rate every year.
You can’t guarantee profits from an investment. That’s just a gamble. However, you can guarantee the gigantic amount of taxes they will deduct from it, and you’re only getting half as much from the cash payout anyway.
If you get the lump sum though that's a large amount growing when invested. You can easily take that and grow it into more than you'd get over time from the payments.
That’s not a guaranteed payout. The annuity payments, however, is. Plus, with a lump sum, Pam, you get hammered huge amounts of taxes.
If it takes you longer than 30 years to turn $200m into $1.08b then my friend you have a poor financial advisor. Also by then the $1.08b won't be worth the same, considering inflation.
Possibly, but that’s still all speculation