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For me it's Dragon Ball Z, that was a pretty fucked up show tbh.

Like holy shit, all the characters are terrible people except maybe Gohan and Trunks.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It would be hard to make the claim though that Frank Herbert supported the gender politics in the Dune universe

It wasn't just a societal structure; until the Universal Super Being showed up, his fiction stated that men could only do these superpowers and women could only do those superpowers and in fact were terrified of the men's side of the superpowers as a plot point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don't agree with you take. Specifically the Bene Gesseriat in his fiction stated those plot points about men could only do this or that and were notably wrong about it. They then caused a mass genocide of trillions of people by accident. Siona was the ultimate being.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe you're right; it's been a while since I read the book and was mostly going off of decades-old recollections.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The entire premise of the book is that it has unreliable narrators and human cognition is limited based on the frame of view. The first story is told from the point of view of Princess Irulan and not Herbert. In later books Leto II is able to find the golden path only because he has the cognition of all humans that came before him and is able to see problems from any point of view.