McConaughey (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 4 points 4 hours ago (11 children)

Which third party has a chance to actually win or do something and isn't just throwing your vote out?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

    Part of building a viable alternative is getting enough votes for consistant ballot access and other resources that are afforded by default to the two primary parties. Winning comes in degrees.

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  • [–] 1 point 58 minutes ago (1 child)

    If that was really the strategy they would start with local elections.

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  • [–] 2 points 56 minutes ago

    Idk about your state, but that is the case here in MD with Greens and the Working Class Party. Also true for the Working Families Party in other states. Presidential elections have a purpose in generating attention, though.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

    "They won't actually fix anything but they might win" is an unbelievably terrible argument

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  • [–] 2 points 57 minutes ago (2 children)

    No. It's "which of these two horrible choices might we influence to make some progress"

    You don't get a third choice for the big things. It's mathematically and literally impossible.

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  • [–] 1 point 29 minutes ago

    Social reality isn't tethered to logic. A mind virus can open the possibility for a third party victory, math be damned.

    We're already past the first step where the general population is tired of the two current options.

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    I'm not sure I fully understood that . But the first step in any change is ranked choice voting. If we had that then we could do three parties or more.

    As it stands, we've devolved into a two-party system and neither party will give up control.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 hours ago (1 child)

    All of them, complain about non-voters not voters.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 hours ago

    Okay let's see. We have a large part of the population who just won't vote. Voter apathy is real.

    Of the Democrats and Republicans, you have about 2/3 of each party that are voting like it's a sports team. They'll never change and they'll never think.

    The thinking people who vote for each party understand that the third party has no chance and they're trying to sway things generally in their direction.

    So the third party victory plan, if I have it correct, is to overcome voter apathy, and also to sway some people who are voting like a sports team from both parties.

    If that's your plan for victory, then you don't have a plan for victory. And you're just wasting your vote.

    Call me cynical, but I think third parties are funded by people outside the country to sway the election. Just like they only thaw out Jill Stein every 4 years to steal votes from the Democrats, and then they park her in a Russian freezer somewhere for the rest of the time.

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