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[–] 36 points 2 days ago (22 children)

If you live in a first world country, living vegan is honestly not a problem at all. And of course I'm not counting the US here. These guys are just poor people that are challanged enough already.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    I think I would have a tough time with going full vegan. Vegetarian sounds like I could do it easily. I enjoy a lot of vegetarian dishes regularily and will often prefer vegetarian options over meat based dishes.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Can always start there then keep going. I will say a lot of people who ultimately go vegan also thought they never could do it. There's some communities on lemmy with some good recipes if you want inspiration

    !veganrecipes@sh.itjust.works

    !veganhomecooks@lemmy.world

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    It's actually cheaper in the US, to note. The lowest income groups in the US are the one exactly the most likely to be vegan or plant-based

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  • [–] -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

    I mean, your country can be rich but it does not mean it's easy being vegan and even if its, often there is still an economic impact on going vegan that poorer people cannot afford

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  • [–] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    In a just world it is, but it kinda depends. A lot of countries subsidise dairy products into the ground for example, which can make it cheaper to be vegan except for dairy. This is of course still better than not vegan at all

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  • [–] 8 points 2 days ago

    Even with subsidies, it's still cheaper if you compare to whole-plant based diets and real world spending data. It's only the pre-made plant-based meats and similar that are more expensive because they don't yet have the same economies of scale

    It found that in high-income countries:

    • Vegan diets were the most affordable and reduced food costs by up to one third.

    • Vegetarian diets were a close second.

    • Flexitarian diets with low amounts of meat and dairy reduced costs by 14%.

    • By contrast, pescatarian diets increased costs by up to 2%.

    https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-11-11-sustainable-eating-cheaper-and-healthier-oxford-study

    Compared to meat eaters, results show that “true” vegetarians do indeed report lower food expenditures

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0921800915301488?via=ihub (looking at the US)

    Based on primary data (n = 1040) collected through an online survey, representative of the Portuguese population, through logistic regressions, it was possible to conclude that plant-based consumers, particularly vegan, are associated with lower food expenditures compared to omnivorous consumers. In fact, plant-based consumers are shown to spend less than all other consumers assessed

    https://agrifoodecon.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s40100-022-00224-9

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)
  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Even with subsidies, it's still cheaper if you compare to whole-plant based diets and real world spending data. It's only the pre-made plant-based meats and similar that are more expensive because they don't yet have the same economies of scale

    Seems like you are from Italy based on your instance? Studies have found overall costs lower in Italy for plant-based diets

    https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-11-11-sustainable-eating-cheaper-and-healthier-oxford-study

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago

    Yeah in Italy overall the price of meat is higher than plants but where i live, if i compare the quantity of meat and plants needed for a full meal, they are almost at the same prices especially where i live since we have plenty of meat to export anyway, the point was not about me but about others, i could prolly be vegetarian with little problems (not vegan, i could not) but I am not very healty so i'd rather not gamble with what i eat too

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