▲ 621 ▼ All supporting acts in Ed Sheeran's tour have dropped out, leaving him with no openers. (www.thewrap.com) submitted 3 days ago by bdonvr [A] to c/music@lemmy.world 102 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 83 points 3 days ago (30 children) Kid Rock or Boy George might be able to open for Ed, lol permalink fedilink source hideshow 30 child comments replies: [–] bdonvr [S, A] 67 points 3 days ago (21 children) Someone call Kanye West permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] ToastedCoconuts@piefed.blahaj.zone 23 points 3 days ago (19 children) Kanye is too busy trying to exploit North into a music career permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (18 children) how does that work? He's psycho, so his musical output is restrained by his insanity. He always made the same slop, so I don't think he has a creative block, more of an organisational block, so why would trying to exploit his kid make him any more productive? EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output. So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] foggy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) How does that work? Bipolar disorder. Not making excuses, but He's a psycho, so his musical output is restrained by his insanity No. That's not how manic episodes work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago updated : EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output. So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rothe@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Lots of bipolar people manages to live their lives without ever becoming nazis and supporting Trump though. You are really doing a disservice to bipolar people by using his illness as an explanation of him being a massive asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Literally has nothing to do with what I said. permalink fedilink source parent [+] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -6 points 3 days ago (13 children) his musical output is restrained by his insanity. insanity does not do that to music. trust me if you meet a musician that's right in the head they make boring music. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children) I hate this view, it’s not true, at all. The majority of great musicians are normal people. This is a concept people made up to justify liking shitty people. I’ve personally interacted with a ton of my favorite bands and outside of a few assholes they are all cool normal people. Music is a rational thing, there are formulas for what does and does not work, you don’t need to be insane to do cool and innovative shit with music. If you look at most of the people that were insane they burned out, died, or ended up in obscurity. Insanity is a universally detrimental thing to experience, it doesn’t impart any kind of gifts. They’re also usually credit stealing narcissists, like Jim Morrisson, they don’t actually provide anything to the music other than a face and personality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (10 children) I'm sorry they weren't able to be themselves around you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (9 children) I’m sorry you think that you have to be broken in order to be creative, that’s sad as fuck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago (8 children) yeah, y'all have been describing us as broken and putting us in freak shows for ages. now you pay us to make you look like you have class when you get entertainment. it's really quite amusing from the musician's end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (7 children) I am a musician. You don’t get to speak for all of us. It doesn’t make you a special or different kind of person. It’s a very accessible skill to learn and perform. We’re not all petty little broken crybabies, in fact the vast majority are not. Your view says a lot more about you than it says about music and musicians. You’re projecting, not observing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (6 children) We’re not all petty little broken crybabies your comments here notwithstanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (5 children) Feel free to outline where I did that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (4 children) as soon as you list your studio albums. i ain't got time for nobodies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) That’s a fun way to let me know I’ve won our little debate. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (2 children) you... you don't have any do you internet person pretending to be a musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) First off, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about and plays no validity to the point I was making. You still lost, regardless of where you want to place the goalposts. Second, your assertive overconfidence is nothing short of delightful. I’m not stupid enough to dox myself for an internet argument. If you’re into doom metal there is a chance you’ve heard my riffs, though, or maybe even seen me on stage if you’re in the western united states. What are your credentials? Feel free to be vague. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Also, what fucking freak shows are you talking about? Music has been easily the most celebrated and universally enjoyed form of art throughout the entirety of human history. Few people can ever even dream of being loved, cherished, and celebrated as much as musicians. There has never been a point that music wasn’t the defining art form of an era. Did ypu not notice the reaction of the entire world when Dolly passed? You’ve got a victim complex, man, figure that shit out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago updated : EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output. So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago Kanye is busy with his own BPD-delusional tours. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 12 points 3 days ago (6 children) Nick Cave is staunchly pro-Israel, in the way edgy right-wing dudes are. Whether sufficiently staunchly to drop everything, fly to the US and open for Sheeran on his tour remains to be seen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 3 days ago (5 children) Nick Cave is staunchly pro-Israel permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (4 children) WTF! There's a 35% chance I'm going to punch him in the face for this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 4 points 3 days ago (3 children) I'm a massive Nick Cave fan and had to look this up. I found this, which is a pair of letters from him. It struck me while writing this how much more powerful a statement you could make if you were to go to Israel and tell the press and the Israeli people how you feel about their current regime, then do a concert on the understanding that the purpose of your music was to speak to the Israeli people’s better angels. That would have a much greater effect than a boycott. I dunno. I can see his point but I'm also disappointed? It's definitely not "staunchly pro-Israel". He's just made a decision to play there and is using that to justify it. I don't know if showing up and telling people in person is better than boycotting and showing them what they're missing. If I were in his position I'd boycott. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago The thing is that the BDS movement specifically asked for a cultural and academic boycott of Israel as well. The same thing happened with Apartheid-era South Africa. I could understand his point in isolation, but there’s a larger social context here. Israelis (and Palestinians) don’t, I think, need awareness raised, they already know what’s going on there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I kind of get it though, in my experience prejudices die by exposure, they flourish in the dark. I don't see how an artistic performance boycott does anything but further close them off to other points of view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 1 point 2 days ago Yeah. It's not black and white. Make a principled stand, or err on the side of getting your point across. I can see both arguments and he's betting on humanity. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago and TED NUGENT the draft dodger. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bdonvr [S, A] 67 points 3 days ago (21 children) Someone call Kanye West permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 21 child comments replies: [–] ToastedCoconuts@piefed.blahaj.zone 23 points 3 days ago (19 children) Kanye is too busy trying to exploit North into a music career permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (18 children) how does that work? He's psycho, so his musical output is restrained by his insanity. He always made the same slop, so I don't think he has a creative block, more of an organisational block, so why would trying to exploit his kid make him any more productive? EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output. So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] foggy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) How does that work? Bipolar disorder. Not making excuses, but He's a psycho, so his musical output is restrained by his insanity No. That's not how manic episodes work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago updated : EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output. So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rothe@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Lots of bipolar people manages to live their lives without ever becoming nazis and supporting Trump though. You are really doing a disservice to bipolar people by using his illness as an explanation of him being a massive asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Literally has nothing to do with what I said. permalink fedilink source parent [+] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -6 points 3 days ago (13 children) his musical output is restrained by his insanity. insanity does not do that to music. trust me if you meet a musician that's right in the head they make boring music. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children) I hate this view, it’s not true, at all. The majority of great musicians are normal people. This is a concept people made up to justify liking shitty people. I’ve personally interacted with a ton of my favorite bands and outside of a few assholes they are all cool normal people. Music is a rational thing, there are formulas for what does and does not work, you don’t need to be insane to do cool and innovative shit with music. If you look at most of the people that were insane they burned out, died, or ended up in obscurity. Insanity is a universally detrimental thing to experience, it doesn’t impart any kind of gifts. They’re also usually credit stealing narcissists, like Jim Morrisson, they don’t actually provide anything to the music other than a face and personality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (10 children) I'm sorry they weren't able to be themselves around you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (9 children) I’m sorry you think that you have to be broken in order to be creative, that’s sad as fuck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago (8 children) yeah, y'all have been describing us as broken and putting us in freak shows for ages. now you pay us to make you look like you have class when you get entertainment. it's really quite amusing from the musician's end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (7 children) I am a musician. You don’t get to speak for all of us. It doesn’t make you a special or different kind of person. It’s a very accessible skill to learn and perform. We’re not all petty little broken crybabies, in fact the vast majority are not. Your view says a lot more about you than it says about music and musicians. You’re projecting, not observing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (6 children) We’re not all petty little broken crybabies your comments here notwithstanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (5 children) Feel free to outline where I did that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (4 children) as soon as you list your studio albums. i ain't got time for nobodies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) That’s a fun way to let me know I’ve won our little debate. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (2 children) you... you don't have any do you internet person pretending to be a musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) First off, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about and plays no validity to the point I was making. You still lost, regardless of where you want to place the goalposts. Second, your assertive overconfidence is nothing short of delightful. I’m not stupid enough to dox myself for an internet argument. If you’re into doom metal there is a chance you’ve heard my riffs, though, or maybe even seen me on stage if you’re in the western united states. What are your credentials? Feel free to be vague. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Also, what fucking freak shows are you talking about? Music has been easily the most celebrated and universally enjoyed form of art throughout the entirety of human history. Few people can ever even dream of being loved, cherished, and celebrated as much as musicians. There has never been a point that music wasn’t the defining art form of an era. Did ypu not notice the reaction of the entire world when Dolly passed? You’ve got a victim complex, man, figure that shit out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago updated : EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output. So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago Kanye is busy with his own BPD-delusional tours. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ToastedCoconuts@piefed.blahaj.zone 23 points 3 days ago (19 children) Kanye is too busy trying to exploit North into a music career permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (18 children) how does that work? He's psycho, so his musical output is restrained by his insanity. He always made the same slop, so I don't think he has a creative block, more of an organisational block, so why would trying to exploit his kid make him any more productive? EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output. So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] foggy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) How does that work? Bipolar disorder. Not making excuses, but He's a psycho, so his musical output is restrained by his insanity No. That's not how manic episodes work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago updated : EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output. So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rothe@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Lots of bipolar people manages to live their lives without ever becoming nazis and supporting Trump though. You are really doing a disservice to bipolar people by using his illness as an explanation of him being a massive asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Literally has nothing to do with what I said. permalink fedilink source parent [+] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -6 points 3 days ago (13 children) his musical output is restrained by his insanity. insanity does not do that to music. trust me if you meet a musician that's right in the head they make boring music. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children) I hate this view, it’s not true, at all. The majority of great musicians are normal people. This is a concept people made up to justify liking shitty people. I’ve personally interacted with a ton of my favorite bands and outside of a few assholes they are all cool normal people. Music is a rational thing, there are formulas for what does and does not work, you don’t need to be insane to do cool and innovative shit with music. If you look at most of the people that were insane they burned out, died, or ended up in obscurity. Insanity is a universally detrimental thing to experience, it doesn’t impart any kind of gifts. They’re also usually credit stealing narcissists, like Jim Morrisson, they don’t actually provide anything to the music other than a face and personality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (10 children) I'm sorry they weren't able to be themselves around you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (9 children) I’m sorry you think that you have to be broken in order to be creative, that’s sad as fuck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago (8 children) yeah, y'all have been describing us as broken and putting us in freak shows for ages. now you pay us to make you look like you have class when you get entertainment. it's really quite amusing from the musician's end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (7 children) I am a musician. You don’t get to speak for all of us. It doesn’t make you a special or different kind of person. It’s a very accessible skill to learn and perform. We’re not all petty little broken crybabies, in fact the vast majority are not. Your view says a lot more about you than it says about music and musicians. You’re projecting, not observing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (6 children) We’re not all petty little broken crybabies your comments here notwithstanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (5 children) Feel free to outline where I did that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (4 children) as soon as you list your studio albums. i ain't got time for nobodies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) That’s a fun way to let me know I’ve won our little debate. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (2 children) you... you don't have any do you internet person pretending to be a musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) First off, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about and plays no validity to the point I was making. You still lost, regardless of where you want to place the goalposts. Second, your assertive overconfidence is nothing short of delightful. I’m not stupid enough to dox myself for an internet argument. If you’re into doom metal there is a chance you’ve heard my riffs, though, or maybe even seen me on stage if you’re in the western united states. What are your credentials? Feel free to be vague. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Also, what fucking freak shows are you talking about? Music has been easily the most celebrated and universally enjoyed form of art throughout the entirety of human history. Few people can ever even dream of being loved, cherished, and celebrated as much as musicians. There has never been a point that music wasn’t the defining art form of an era. Did ypu not notice the reaction of the entire world when Dolly passed? You’ve got a victim complex, man, figure that shit out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago updated : EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output. So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (18 children) how does that work? He's psycho, so his musical output is restrained by his insanity. He always made the same slop, so I don't think he has a creative block, more of an organisational block, so why would trying to exploit his kid make him any more productive? EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output. So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] foggy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) How does that work? Bipolar disorder. Not making excuses, but He's a psycho, so his musical output is restrained by his insanity No. That's not how manic episodes work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago updated : EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output. So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rothe@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Lots of bipolar people manages to live their lives without ever becoming nazis and supporting Trump though. You are really doing a disservice to bipolar people by using his illness as an explanation of him being a massive asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Literally has nothing to do with what I said. permalink fedilink source parent [+] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -6 points 3 days ago (13 children) his musical output is restrained by his insanity. insanity does not do that to music. trust me if you meet a musician that's right in the head they make boring music. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children) I hate this view, it’s not true, at all. The majority of great musicians are normal people. This is a concept people made up to justify liking shitty people. I’ve personally interacted with a ton of my favorite bands and outside of a few assholes they are all cool normal people. Music is a rational thing, there are formulas for what does and does not work, you don’t need to be insane to do cool and innovative shit with music. If you look at most of the people that were insane they burned out, died, or ended up in obscurity. Insanity is a universally detrimental thing to experience, it doesn’t impart any kind of gifts. They’re also usually credit stealing narcissists, like Jim Morrisson, they don’t actually provide anything to the music other than a face and personality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (10 children) I'm sorry they weren't able to be themselves around you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (9 children) I’m sorry you think that you have to be broken in order to be creative, that’s sad as fuck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago (8 children) yeah, y'all have been describing us as broken and putting us in freak shows for ages. now you pay us to make you look like you have class when you get entertainment. it's really quite amusing from the musician's end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (7 children) I am a musician. You don’t get to speak for all of us. It doesn’t make you a special or different kind of person. It’s a very accessible skill to learn and perform. We’re not all petty little broken crybabies, in fact the vast majority are not. Your view says a lot more about you than it says about music and musicians. You’re projecting, not observing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (6 children) We’re not all petty little broken crybabies your comments here notwithstanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (5 children) Feel free to outline where I did that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (4 children) as soon as you list your studio albums. i ain't got time for nobodies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) That’s a fun way to let me know I’ve won our little debate. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (2 children) you... you don't have any do you internet person pretending to be a musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) First off, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about and plays no validity to the point I was making. You still lost, regardless of where you want to place the goalposts. Second, your assertive overconfidence is nothing short of delightful. I’m not stupid enough to dox myself for an internet argument. If you’re into doom metal there is a chance you’ve heard my riffs, though, or maybe even seen me on stage if you’re in the western united states. What are your credentials? Feel free to be vague. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Also, what fucking freak shows are you talking about? Music has been easily the most celebrated and universally enjoyed form of art throughout the entirety of human history. Few people can ever even dream of being loved, cherished, and celebrated as much as musicians. There has never been a point that music wasn’t the defining art form of an era. Did ypu not notice the reaction of the entire world when Dolly passed? You’ve got a victim complex, man, figure that shit out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago updated : EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output. So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] foggy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) How does that work? Bipolar disorder. Not making excuses, but He's a psycho, so his musical output is restrained by his insanity No. That's not how manic episodes work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago updated : EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output. So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rothe@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Lots of bipolar people manages to live their lives without ever becoming nazis and supporting Trump though. You are really doing a disservice to bipolar people by using his illness as an explanation of him being a massive asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Literally has nothing to do with what I said. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago updated : EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output. So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rothe@piefed.social -2 points 2 days ago (1 child) Lots of bipolar people manages to live their lives without ever becoming nazis and supporting Trump though. You are really doing a disservice to bipolar people by using his illness as an explanation of him being a massive asshole. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Literally has nothing to do with what I said. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Literally has nothing to do with what I said. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -6 points 3 days ago (13 children) his musical output is restrained by his insanity. insanity does not do that to music. trust me if you meet a musician that's right in the head they make boring music. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children) I hate this view, it’s not true, at all. The majority of great musicians are normal people. This is a concept people made up to justify liking shitty people. I’ve personally interacted with a ton of my favorite bands and outside of a few assholes they are all cool normal people. Music is a rational thing, there are formulas for what does and does not work, you don’t need to be insane to do cool and innovative shit with music. If you look at most of the people that were insane they burned out, died, or ended up in obscurity. Insanity is a universally detrimental thing to experience, it doesn’t impart any kind of gifts. They’re also usually credit stealing narcissists, like Jim Morrisson, they don’t actually provide anything to the music other than a face and personality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (10 children) I'm sorry they weren't able to be themselves around you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (9 children) I’m sorry you think that you have to be broken in order to be creative, that’s sad as fuck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago (8 children) yeah, y'all have been describing us as broken and putting us in freak shows for ages. now you pay us to make you look like you have class when you get entertainment. it's really quite amusing from the musician's end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (7 children) I am a musician. You don’t get to speak for all of us. It doesn’t make you a special or different kind of person. It’s a very accessible skill to learn and perform. We’re not all petty little broken crybabies, in fact the vast majority are not. Your view says a lot more about you than it says about music and musicians. You’re projecting, not observing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (6 children) We’re not all petty little broken crybabies your comments here notwithstanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (5 children) Feel free to outline where I did that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (4 children) as soon as you list your studio albums. i ain't got time for nobodies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) That’s a fun way to let me know I’ve won our little debate. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (2 children) you... you don't have any do you internet person pretending to be a musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) First off, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about and plays no validity to the point I was making. You still lost, regardless of where you want to place the goalposts. Second, your assertive overconfidence is nothing short of delightful. I’m not stupid enough to dox myself for an internet argument. If you’re into doom metal there is a chance you’ve heard my riffs, though, or maybe even seen me on stage if you’re in the western united states. What are your credentials? Feel free to be vague. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Also, what fucking freak shows are you talking about? Music has been easily the most celebrated and universally enjoyed form of art throughout the entirety of human history. Few people can ever even dream of being loved, cherished, and celebrated as much as musicians. There has never been a point that music wasn’t the defining art form of an era. Did ypu not notice the reaction of the entire world when Dolly passed? You’ve got a victim complex, man, figure that shit out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago updated : EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output. So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children) I hate this view, it’s not true, at all. The majority of great musicians are normal people. This is a concept people made up to justify liking shitty people. I’ve personally interacted with a ton of my favorite bands and outside of a few assholes they are all cool normal people. Music is a rational thing, there are formulas for what does and does not work, you don’t need to be insane to do cool and innovative shit with music. If you look at most of the people that were insane they burned out, died, or ended up in obscurity. Insanity is a universally detrimental thing to experience, it doesn’t impart any kind of gifts. They’re also usually credit stealing narcissists, like Jim Morrisson, they don’t actually provide anything to the music other than a face and personality. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (10 children) I'm sorry they weren't able to be themselves around you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (9 children) I’m sorry you think that you have to be broken in order to be creative, that’s sad as fuck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago (8 children) yeah, y'all have been describing us as broken and putting us in freak shows for ages. now you pay us to make you look like you have class when you get entertainment. it's really quite amusing from the musician's end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (7 children) I am a musician. You don’t get to speak for all of us. It doesn’t make you a special or different kind of person. It’s a very accessible skill to learn and perform. We’re not all petty little broken crybabies, in fact the vast majority are not. Your view says a lot more about you than it says about music and musicians. You’re projecting, not observing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (6 children) We’re not all petty little broken crybabies your comments here notwithstanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (5 children) Feel free to outline where I did that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (4 children) as soon as you list your studio albums. i ain't got time for nobodies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) That’s a fun way to let me know I’ve won our little debate. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (2 children) you... you don't have any do you internet person pretending to be a musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) First off, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about and plays no validity to the point I was making. You still lost, regardless of where you want to place the goalposts. Second, your assertive overconfidence is nothing short of delightful. I’m not stupid enough to dox myself for an internet argument. If you’re into doom metal there is a chance you’ve heard my riffs, though, or maybe even seen me on stage if you’re in the western united states. What are your credentials? Feel free to be vague. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Also, what fucking freak shows are you talking about? Music has been easily the most celebrated and universally enjoyed form of art throughout the entirety of human history. Few people can ever even dream of being loved, cherished, and celebrated as much as musicians. There has never been a point that music wasn’t the defining art form of an era. Did ypu not notice the reaction of the entire world when Dolly passed? You’ve got a victim complex, man, figure that shit out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (10 children) I'm sorry they weren't able to be themselves around you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (9 children) I’m sorry you think that you have to be broken in order to be creative, that’s sad as fuck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago (8 children) yeah, y'all have been describing us as broken and putting us in freak shows for ages. now you pay us to make you look like you have class when you get entertainment. it's really quite amusing from the musician's end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (7 children) I am a musician. You don’t get to speak for all of us. It doesn’t make you a special or different kind of person. It’s a very accessible skill to learn and perform. We’re not all petty little broken crybabies, in fact the vast majority are not. Your view says a lot more about you than it says about music and musicians. You’re projecting, not observing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (6 children) We’re not all petty little broken crybabies your comments here notwithstanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (5 children) Feel free to outline where I did that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (4 children) as soon as you list your studio albums. i ain't got time for nobodies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) That’s a fun way to let me know I’ve won our little debate. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (2 children) you... you don't have any do you internet person pretending to be a musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) First off, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about and plays no validity to the point I was making. You still lost, regardless of where you want to place the goalposts. Second, your assertive overconfidence is nothing short of delightful. I’m not stupid enough to dox myself for an internet argument. If you’re into doom metal there is a chance you’ve heard my riffs, though, or maybe even seen me on stage if you’re in the western united states. What are your credentials? Feel free to be vague. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Also, what fucking freak shows are you talking about? Music has been easily the most celebrated and universally enjoyed form of art throughout the entirety of human history. Few people can ever even dream of being loved, cherished, and celebrated as much as musicians. There has never been a point that music wasn’t the defining art form of an era. Did ypu not notice the reaction of the entire world when Dolly passed? You’ve got a victim complex, man, figure that shit out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (9 children) I’m sorry you think that you have to be broken in order to be creative, that’s sad as fuck. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago (8 children) yeah, y'all have been describing us as broken and putting us in freak shows for ages. now you pay us to make you look like you have class when you get entertainment. it's really quite amusing from the musician's end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (7 children) I am a musician. You don’t get to speak for all of us. It doesn’t make you a special or different kind of person. It’s a very accessible skill to learn and perform. We’re not all petty little broken crybabies, in fact the vast majority are not. Your view says a lot more about you than it says about music and musicians. You’re projecting, not observing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (6 children) We’re not all petty little broken crybabies your comments here notwithstanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (5 children) Feel free to outline where I did that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (4 children) as soon as you list your studio albums. i ain't got time for nobodies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) That’s a fun way to let me know I’ve won our little debate. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (2 children) you... you don't have any do you internet person pretending to be a musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) First off, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about and plays no validity to the point I was making. You still lost, regardless of where you want to place the goalposts. Second, your assertive overconfidence is nothing short of delightful. I’m not stupid enough to dox myself for an internet argument. If you’re into doom metal there is a chance you’ve heard my riffs, though, or maybe even seen me on stage if you’re in the western united states. What are your credentials? Feel free to be vague. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Also, what fucking freak shows are you talking about? Music has been easily the most celebrated and universally enjoyed form of art throughout the entirety of human history. Few people can ever even dream of being loved, cherished, and celebrated as much as musicians. There has never been a point that music wasn’t the defining art form of an era. Did ypu not notice the reaction of the entire world when Dolly passed? You’ve got a victim complex, man, figure that shit out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago (8 children) yeah, y'all have been describing us as broken and putting us in freak shows for ages. now you pay us to make you look like you have class when you get entertainment. it's really quite amusing from the musician's end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (7 children) I am a musician. You don’t get to speak for all of us. It doesn’t make you a special or different kind of person. It’s a very accessible skill to learn and perform. We’re not all petty little broken crybabies, in fact the vast majority are not. Your view says a lot more about you than it says about music and musicians. You’re projecting, not observing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (6 children) We’re not all petty little broken crybabies your comments here notwithstanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (5 children) Feel free to outline where I did that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (4 children) as soon as you list your studio albums. i ain't got time for nobodies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) That’s a fun way to let me know I’ve won our little debate. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (2 children) you... you don't have any do you internet person pretending to be a musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) First off, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about and plays no validity to the point I was making. You still lost, regardless of where you want to place the goalposts. Second, your assertive overconfidence is nothing short of delightful. I’m not stupid enough to dox myself for an internet argument. If you’re into doom metal there is a chance you’ve heard my riffs, though, or maybe even seen me on stage if you’re in the western united states. What are your credentials? Feel free to be vague. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Also, what fucking freak shows are you talking about? Music has been easily the most celebrated and universally enjoyed form of art throughout the entirety of human history. Few people can ever even dream of being loved, cherished, and celebrated as much as musicians. There has never been a point that music wasn’t the defining art form of an era. Did ypu not notice the reaction of the entire world when Dolly passed? You’ve got a victim complex, man, figure that shit out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (7 children) I am a musician. You don’t get to speak for all of us. It doesn’t make you a special or different kind of person. It’s a very accessible skill to learn and perform. We’re not all petty little broken crybabies, in fact the vast majority are not. Your view says a lot more about you than it says about music and musicians. You’re projecting, not observing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (6 children) We’re not all petty little broken crybabies your comments here notwithstanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (5 children) Feel free to outline where I did that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (4 children) as soon as you list your studio albums. i ain't got time for nobodies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) That’s a fun way to let me know I’ve won our little debate. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (2 children) you... you don't have any do you internet person pretending to be a musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) First off, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about and plays no validity to the point I was making. You still lost, regardless of where you want to place the goalposts. Second, your assertive overconfidence is nothing short of delightful. I’m not stupid enough to dox myself for an internet argument. If you’re into doom metal there is a chance you’ve heard my riffs, though, or maybe even seen me on stage if you’re in the western united states. What are your credentials? Feel free to be vague. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Also, what fucking freak shows are you talking about? Music has been easily the most celebrated and universally enjoyed form of art throughout the entirety of human history. Few people can ever even dream of being loved, cherished, and celebrated as much as musicians. There has never been a point that music wasn’t the defining art form of an era. Did ypu not notice the reaction of the entire world when Dolly passed? You’ve got a victim complex, man, figure that shit out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (6 children) We’re not all petty little broken crybabies your comments here notwithstanding? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (5 children) Feel free to outline where I did that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (4 children) as soon as you list your studio albums. i ain't got time for nobodies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) That’s a fun way to let me know I’ve won our little debate. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (2 children) you... you don't have any do you internet person pretending to be a musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) First off, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about and plays no validity to the point I was making. You still lost, regardless of where you want to place the goalposts. Second, your assertive overconfidence is nothing short of delightful. I’m not stupid enough to dox myself for an internet argument. If you’re into doom metal there is a chance you’ve heard my riffs, though, or maybe even seen me on stage if you’re in the western united states. What are your credentials? Feel free to be vague. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Also, what fucking freak shows are you talking about? Music has been easily the most celebrated and universally enjoyed form of art throughout the entirety of human history. Few people can ever even dream of being loved, cherished, and celebrated as much as musicians. There has never been a point that music wasn’t the defining art form of an era. Did ypu not notice the reaction of the entire world when Dolly passed? You’ve got a victim complex, man, figure that shit out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (5 children) Feel free to outline where I did that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (4 children) as soon as you list your studio albums. i ain't got time for nobodies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) That’s a fun way to let me know I’ve won our little debate. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (2 children) you... you don't have any do you internet person pretending to be a musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) First off, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about and plays no validity to the point I was making. You still lost, regardless of where you want to place the goalposts. Second, your assertive overconfidence is nothing short of delightful. I’m not stupid enough to dox myself for an internet argument. If you’re into doom metal there is a chance you’ve heard my riffs, though, or maybe even seen me on stage if you’re in the western united states. What are your credentials? Feel free to be vague. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Also, what fucking freak shows are you talking about? Music has been easily the most celebrated and universally enjoyed form of art throughout the entirety of human history. Few people can ever even dream of being loved, cherished, and celebrated as much as musicians. There has never been a point that music wasn’t the defining art form of an era. Did ypu not notice the reaction of the entire world when Dolly passed? You’ve got a victim complex, man, figure that shit out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (4 children) as soon as you list your studio albums. i ain't got time for nobodies permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) That’s a fun way to let me know I’ve won our little debate. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (2 children) you... you don't have any do you internet person pretending to be a musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) First off, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about and plays no validity to the point I was making. You still lost, regardless of where you want to place the goalposts. Second, your assertive overconfidence is nothing short of delightful. I’m not stupid enough to dox myself for an internet argument. If you’re into doom metal there is a chance you’ve heard my riffs, though, or maybe even seen me on stage if you’re in the western united states. What are your credentials? Feel free to be vague. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Also, what fucking freak shows are you talking about? Music has been easily the most celebrated and universally enjoyed form of art throughout the entirety of human history. Few people can ever even dream of being loved, cherished, and celebrated as much as musicians. There has never been a point that music wasn’t the defining art form of an era. Did ypu not notice the reaction of the entire world when Dolly passed? You’ve got a victim complex, man, figure that shit out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children) That’s a fun way to let me know I’ve won our little debate. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (2 children) you... you don't have any do you internet person pretending to be a musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) First off, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about and plays no validity to the point I was making. You still lost, regardless of where you want to place the goalposts. Second, your assertive overconfidence is nothing short of delightful. I’m not stupid enough to dox myself for an internet argument. If you’re into doom metal there is a chance you’ve heard my riffs, though, or maybe even seen me on stage if you’re in the western united states. What are your credentials? Feel free to be vague. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Also, what fucking freak shows are you talking about? Music has been easily the most celebrated and universally enjoyed form of art throughout the entirety of human history. Few people can ever even dream of being loved, cherished, and celebrated as much as musicians. There has never been a point that music wasn’t the defining art form of an era. Did ypu not notice the reaction of the entire world when Dolly passed? You’ve got a victim complex, man, figure that shit out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (2 children) you... you don't have any do you internet person pretending to be a musician? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) First off, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about and plays no validity to the point I was making. You still lost, regardless of where you want to place the goalposts. Second, your assertive overconfidence is nothing short of delightful. I’m not stupid enough to dox myself for an internet argument. If you’re into doom metal there is a chance you’ve heard my riffs, though, or maybe even seen me on stage if you’re in the western united states. What are your credentials? Feel free to be vague. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Also, what fucking freak shows are you talking about? Music has been easily the most celebrated and universally enjoyed form of art throughout the entirety of human history. Few people can ever even dream of being loved, cherished, and celebrated as much as musicians. There has never been a point that music wasn’t the defining art form of an era. Did ypu not notice the reaction of the entire world when Dolly passed? You’ve got a victim complex, man, figure that shit out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) First off, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about and plays no validity to the point I was making. You still lost, regardless of where you want to place the goalposts. Second, your assertive overconfidence is nothing short of delightful. I’m not stupid enough to dox myself for an internet argument. If you’re into doom metal there is a chance you’ve heard my riffs, though, or maybe even seen me on stage if you’re in the western united states. What are your credentials? Feel free to be vague. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Also, what fucking freak shows are you talking about? Music has been easily the most celebrated and universally enjoyed form of art throughout the entirety of human history. Few people can ever even dream of being loved, cherished, and celebrated as much as musicians. There has never been a point that music wasn’t the defining art form of an era. Did ypu not notice the reaction of the entire world when Dolly passed? You’ve got a victim complex, man, figure that shit out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago updated : EDIT : To be clear, I am not saying "his musical output is caused by/limited by/due to" his insanity. I mean his mental illness makes his productivity less efficient to the point where there is less output. So if he's being affected by mental health, it doesn't matter if it's his music or his kid's music, neither is getting completed because he's not going to get anything done, because mental health problems will impede his productivity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago Kanye is busy with his own BPD-delusional tours. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 12 points 3 days ago (6 children) Nick Cave is staunchly pro-Israel, in the way edgy right-wing dudes are. Whether sufficiently staunchly to drop everything, fly to the US and open for Sheeran on his tour remains to be seen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 3 days ago (5 children) Nick Cave is staunchly pro-Israel permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (4 children) WTF! There's a 35% chance I'm going to punch him in the face for this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 4 points 3 days ago (3 children) I'm a massive Nick Cave fan and had to look this up. I found this, which is a pair of letters from him. It struck me while writing this how much more powerful a statement you could make if you were to go to Israel and tell the press and the Israeli people how you feel about their current regime, then do a concert on the understanding that the purpose of your music was to speak to the Israeli people’s better angels. That would have a much greater effect than a boycott. I dunno. I can see his point but I'm also disappointed? It's definitely not "staunchly pro-Israel". He's just made a decision to play there and is using that to justify it. I don't know if showing up and telling people in person is better than boycotting and showing them what they're missing. If I were in his position I'd boycott. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago The thing is that the BDS movement specifically asked for a cultural and academic boycott of Israel as well. The same thing happened with Apartheid-era South Africa. I could understand his point in isolation, but there’s a larger social context here. Israelis (and Palestinians) don’t, I think, need awareness raised, they already know what’s going on there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I kind of get it though, in my experience prejudices die by exposure, they flourish in the dark. I don't see how an artistic performance boycott does anything but further close them off to other points of view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 1 point 2 days ago Yeah. It's not black and white. Make a principled stand, or err on the side of getting your point across. I can see both arguments and he's betting on humanity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 3 days ago (5 children) Nick Cave is staunchly pro-Israel permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (4 children) WTF! There's a 35% chance I'm going to punch him in the face for this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 4 points 3 days ago (3 children) I'm a massive Nick Cave fan and had to look this up. I found this, which is a pair of letters from him. It struck me while writing this how much more powerful a statement you could make if you were to go to Israel and tell the press and the Israeli people how you feel about their current regime, then do a concert on the understanding that the purpose of your music was to speak to the Israeli people’s better angels. That would have a much greater effect than a boycott. I dunno. I can see his point but I'm also disappointed? It's definitely not "staunchly pro-Israel". He's just made a decision to play there and is using that to justify it. I don't know if showing up and telling people in person is better than boycotting and showing them what they're missing. If I were in his position I'd boycott. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago The thing is that the BDS movement specifically asked for a cultural and academic boycott of Israel as well. The same thing happened with Apartheid-era South Africa. I could understand his point in isolation, but there’s a larger social context here. Israelis (and Palestinians) don’t, I think, need awareness raised, they already know what’s going on there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I kind of get it though, in my experience prejudices die by exposure, they flourish in the dark. I don't see how an artistic performance boycott does anything but further close them off to other points of view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 1 point 2 days ago Yeah. It's not black and white. Make a principled stand, or err on the side of getting your point across. I can see both arguments and he's betting on humanity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (4 children) WTF! There's a 35% chance I'm going to punch him in the face for this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 4 points 3 days ago (3 children) I'm a massive Nick Cave fan and had to look this up. I found this, which is a pair of letters from him. It struck me while writing this how much more powerful a statement you could make if you were to go to Israel and tell the press and the Israeli people how you feel about their current regime, then do a concert on the understanding that the purpose of your music was to speak to the Israeli people’s better angels. That would have a much greater effect than a boycott. I dunno. I can see his point but I'm also disappointed? It's definitely not "staunchly pro-Israel". He's just made a decision to play there and is using that to justify it. I don't know if showing up and telling people in person is better than boycotting and showing them what they're missing. If I were in his position I'd boycott. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago The thing is that the BDS movement specifically asked for a cultural and academic boycott of Israel as well. The same thing happened with Apartheid-era South Africa. I could understand his point in isolation, but there’s a larger social context here. Israelis (and Palestinians) don’t, I think, need awareness raised, they already know what’s going on there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I kind of get it though, in my experience prejudices die by exposure, they flourish in the dark. I don't see how an artistic performance boycott does anything but further close them off to other points of view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 1 point 2 days ago Yeah. It's not black and white. Make a principled stand, or err on the side of getting your point across. I can see both arguments and he's betting on humanity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 4 points 3 days ago (3 children) I'm a massive Nick Cave fan and had to look this up. I found this, which is a pair of letters from him. It struck me while writing this how much more powerful a statement you could make if you were to go to Israel and tell the press and the Israeli people how you feel about their current regime, then do a concert on the understanding that the purpose of your music was to speak to the Israeli people’s better angels. That would have a much greater effect than a boycott. I dunno. I can see his point but I'm also disappointed? It's definitely not "staunchly pro-Israel". He's just made a decision to play there and is using that to justify it. I don't know if showing up and telling people in person is better than boycotting and showing them what they're missing. If I were in his position I'd boycott. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago The thing is that the BDS movement specifically asked for a cultural and academic boycott of Israel as well. The same thing happened with Apartheid-era South Africa. I could understand his point in isolation, but there’s a larger social context here. Israelis (and Palestinians) don’t, I think, need awareness raised, they already know what’s going on there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I kind of get it though, in my experience prejudices die by exposure, they flourish in the dark. I don't see how an artistic performance boycott does anything but further close them off to other points of view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 1 point 2 days ago Yeah. It's not black and white. Make a principled stand, or err on the side of getting your point across. I can see both arguments and he's betting on humanity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago The thing is that the BDS movement specifically asked for a cultural and academic boycott of Israel as well. The same thing happened with Apartheid-era South Africa. I could understand his point in isolation, but there’s a larger social context here. Israelis (and Palestinians) don’t, I think, need awareness raised, they already know what’s going on there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I kind of get it though, in my experience prejudices die by exposure, they flourish in the dark. I don't see how an artistic performance boycott does anything but further close them off to other points of view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 1 point 2 days ago Yeah. It's not black and white. Make a principled stand, or err on the side of getting your point across. I can see both arguments and he's betting on humanity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 1 point 2 days ago Yeah. It's not black and white. Make a principled stand, or err on the side of getting your point across. I can see both arguments and he's betting on humanity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago and TED NUGENT the draft dodger. permalink fedilink source parent