▲ 621 ▼ All supporting acts in Ed Sheeran's tour have dropped out, leaving him with no openers. (www.thewrap.com) submitted 3 days ago by bdonvr [A] to c/music@lemmy.world 102 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 3 days ago (5 children) Nick Cave is staunchly pro-Israel permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (4 children) WTF! There's a 35% chance I'm going to punch him in the face for this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 4 points 3 days ago (3 children) I'm a massive Nick Cave fan and had to look this up. I found this, which is a pair of letters from him. It struck me while writing this how much more powerful a statement you could make if you were to go to Israel and tell the press and the Israeli people how you feel about their current regime, then do a concert on the understanding that the purpose of your music was to speak to the Israeli people’s better angels. That would have a much greater effect than a boycott. I dunno. I can see his point but I'm also disappointed? It's definitely not "staunchly pro-Israel". He's just made a decision to play there and is using that to justify it. I don't know if showing up and telling people in person is better than boycotting and showing them what they're missing. If I were in his position I'd boycott. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago The thing is that the BDS movement specifically asked for a cultural and academic boycott of Israel as well. The same thing happened with Apartheid-era South Africa. I could understand his point in isolation, but there’s a larger social context here. Israelis (and Palestinians) don’t, I think, need awareness raised, they already know what’s going on there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I kind of get it though, in my experience prejudices die by exposure, they flourish in the dark. I don't see how an artistic performance boycott does anything but further close them off to other points of view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 1 point 2 days ago Yeah. It's not black and white. Make a principled stand, or err on the side of getting your point across. I can see both arguments and he's betting on humanity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (4 children) WTF! There's a 35% chance I'm going to punch him in the face for this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 4 points 3 days ago (3 children) I'm a massive Nick Cave fan and had to look this up. I found this, which is a pair of letters from him. It struck me while writing this how much more powerful a statement you could make if you were to go to Israel and tell the press and the Israeli people how you feel about their current regime, then do a concert on the understanding that the purpose of your music was to speak to the Israeli people’s better angels. That would have a much greater effect than a boycott. I dunno. I can see his point but I'm also disappointed? It's definitely not "staunchly pro-Israel". He's just made a decision to play there and is using that to justify it. I don't know if showing up and telling people in person is better than boycotting and showing them what they're missing. If I were in his position I'd boycott. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago The thing is that the BDS movement specifically asked for a cultural and academic boycott of Israel as well. The same thing happened with Apartheid-era South Africa. I could understand his point in isolation, but there’s a larger social context here. Israelis (and Palestinians) don’t, I think, need awareness raised, they already know what’s going on there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I kind of get it though, in my experience prejudices die by exposure, they flourish in the dark. I don't see how an artistic performance boycott does anything but further close them off to other points of view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 1 point 2 days ago Yeah. It's not black and white. Make a principled stand, or err on the side of getting your point across. I can see both arguments and he's betting on humanity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 4 points 3 days ago (3 children) I'm a massive Nick Cave fan and had to look this up. I found this, which is a pair of letters from him. It struck me while writing this how much more powerful a statement you could make if you were to go to Israel and tell the press and the Israeli people how you feel about their current regime, then do a concert on the understanding that the purpose of your music was to speak to the Israeli people’s better angels. That would have a much greater effect than a boycott. I dunno. I can see his point but I'm also disappointed? It's definitely not "staunchly pro-Israel". He's just made a decision to play there and is using that to justify it. I don't know if showing up and telling people in person is better than boycotting and showing them what they're missing. If I were in his position I'd boycott. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago The thing is that the BDS movement specifically asked for a cultural and academic boycott of Israel as well. The same thing happened with Apartheid-era South Africa. I could understand his point in isolation, but there’s a larger social context here. Israelis (and Palestinians) don’t, I think, need awareness raised, they already know what’s going on there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I kind of get it though, in my experience prejudices die by exposure, they flourish in the dark. I don't see how an artistic performance boycott does anything but further close them off to other points of view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 1 point 2 days ago Yeah. It's not black and white. Make a principled stand, or err on the side of getting your point across. I can see both arguments and he's betting on humanity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago The thing is that the BDS movement specifically asked for a cultural and academic boycott of Israel as well. The same thing happened with Apartheid-era South Africa. I could understand his point in isolation, but there’s a larger social context here. Israelis (and Palestinians) don’t, I think, need awareness raised, they already know what’s going on there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 child) I kind of get it though, in my experience prejudices die by exposure, they flourish in the dark. I don't see how an artistic performance boycott does anything but further close them off to other points of view. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 1 point 2 days ago Yeah. It's not black and white. Make a principled stand, or err on the side of getting your point across. I can see both arguments and he's betting on humanity. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] groucho@retrolemmy.com 1 point 2 days ago Yeah. It's not black and white. Make a principled stand, or err on the side of getting your point across. I can see both arguments and he's betting on humanity. permalink fedilink source parent
